Axis History Forum

[Peterski]

If you are interested in WW2 history, I recommend you to join an awesome place to discuss it, Axis History Forum:

https://forum.axishistory.com/

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Both me and Davidski from the Eurogenes Blog are there. I'm a moderator and a Host of Allied Sections (Peter K).

[Faklon]

Davidski is a cosplayer?

[Peterski]

Davidski is a cosplayer?

No, a history buff:

https://forum.axishistory.com/member...ewprofile&u=18

"Username: Davey Boy

Interests in history: late Neolithic/early Bronze Age in Central and Eastern Europe, Poland during WWII"

And a genome blogger:

https://www.nature.com/articles/468880a

[Faklon]

No, a history buff:

https://forum.axishistory.com/member...ewprofile&u=18

"Username: Davey Boy

Interests in history: late Neolithic/early Bronze Age in Central and Eastern Europe, Poland during WWII"

And a genome blogger:

https://www.nature.com/articles/468880a

I know who Davidski is, he has been an anthrotard here too.

The forum just seems cosplayer-tier.

[Peterski]

The forum just seems cosplayer-tier.

No it is a very serious forum, I don't think there is any better English language forum about WW2.

he has been an anthrotard here too

I don't think he ever posted here, are you sure ???

[Komintasavalta]

I don't think there is any better English language forum about WW2.

The CODOH forum seems like a higher-quality forum.

[Faklon]

No it is a very serious forum, I don't think there is any better English language forum about WW2.



I don't think he ever posted here, are you sure ???

He posted here albeit many years ago, I found some of his posts in the past.

Just lol at the Haak theory, he's referred in this paper:

The spatiotemporal spread of human migrations during the European Holocene

We thank John Novembre, Rasmus Nielsen, Michael K. Borregaard, Mark G. Thomas, David Wesolowski, and Kurt H. Kjær for helpful advice and discussions.

I doubt that Haak would only appear in the Acknowledgments with another alias.

[Peterski]

The CODOH forum seems like a higher-quality forum.

Isn't that just a Holocaust discussion forum rather than a WW2 discussion forum?

Also on Axis History Forum there is Michael Mills, who helped David Irving in court:

https://sicsa.huji.ac.il/sites/defau...les/acta25.pdf

"Irving received practical benefit from this Australian support, 288
donations were received from Australia, ranging from $10–$2000, in the
leadup to his trial.161 During his trial, Irving was assisted in preparing
information for his cross examination by Australian public servant
Michael Mills; Irving acknowledged his assistance in his case, given the
limited time he had to prepare. This demonstrates that an Australian
such as Mills who has no impact on the debate about the Holocaust in
Australia, can play a more significant role when connected to prominent
overseas deniers.162 Following the court’s decision against Irving, the
ACLU planned to provide financial assistance for his appeal.163"

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On Axis History the same Michael Mills from Australia posts under his real name:

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewto...52935#p2352935



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So there are people with all kinds of views there, nobody is being censored there.

[Komintasavalta]

So there are people with all kinds of views there, nobody is being censored there.

So you think PHDNM would not be censored there?



In Finland there's a supposedly hardcore right-wing forum called hommaforum.org, but their rules say that you are not allowed to criticize Jews or gays, or to post about topics which are characterized as consipracy theories other than in a specific subforum, or to use ethnic slurs, or to portray extreme ideologies or totalitarian governments in a positive light, or to celebrate Hitler's birthday.

[Peterski]

So you think PHDNM would not be censored there?

Well I don't know who this PHDNM is ??? Maybe he should try to register and talk about his views with other users ???

BTW, I used to discuss with that Michael Mills on AHF quite a lot, I disagree with him on his interpretations of history.

I used to debate with Michael for example in "Bromberger Blutsonntag" thread (Domen was my previous nickname):

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewto...3697&start=510

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My summary of what happened (while III Reich apologists like him say it was a Polish crime against German civilians):

Rather it was a partly planned & partly spontaneous outburst of anti-Polish rage on the part of the German population & saboteurs, who started to shoot at columns of Polish military units marching across the city from positions located in high points like towers of churches, windows & attics of houses, all along the march roads of Polish units (we can see on the map posted above that spots where German armed saboteurs & armed civilians opened fire to Polish soldiers are located along the streets along which those Polish units marched across the city).

Volksdeutsche were encouraged by sounds of the nearby front (which gave them the confidence that the city was going to very soon be "liberated" by Wehrmacht - which was not the case as it turned out, because Polish defence of the "Bydgoszcz Bridgehead" - area west of the city - turned out to be stronger than expected) and by Nazi saboteurs sent to the city to start the entire action and draw also part of local population into this anti-Polish "uprising".

Shooting at Polish soldiers and militiamen was recorded from over 180 spots in the city, including ca. 8 - 9 churches (if I counted it correctly using that poor resolution map). This indicates large scale of the "uprising".

Among the 618 German dead of these events, just 238+ are local citizens - while the other group of 286+ of these dead are saboteurs who were nonresident population and had been sent to Bydgoszcz with certain task.

Moreover - of the 618 German dead, 546 are men and only 72 women - while in pogroms of civilians proportion of male & female victims is roughly 50/50. Which means that no pogrom was perpetrated in this case.

It was a military & paramilitary action planned mainly by Nazi Germany's Military Intelligence (Abwehr).

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Another of my old posts on that subject, one of my responses to Michael Mills:

Bydgoszcz in August 1939 had 143,075 inhabitants - including 9208 Germans (of them 2105 Catholics).

But one has to be blind to believe in Michael Mills' claims about alleged "political neutrality" or "lack of anti-Polish sentiment" of these Germans. Quite the contrary - the Bydgoszcz community of Germans was very active in the field of politics. Nationalistic pro-Hitler and anti-Polish sentiments were very strong among its members.

Of these 9208 as many as 2170 belonged to pro-Nazi Deutsche Vereinigung - DV (as of 1937).

Michael previously asked about the role of evangelical churches in the sabotage in Bydgoszcz... He claimed that this is just "paranoid", "Catholic paranoia", to claim that even 8 out of 180 spots from which saboteurs shot (so not even 5% of all) were evangelical churches! Well, Michael - it happens that one of members of the local "department" of Deutsche Vereinigung in Bydgoszcz, was Julius Assmann (1868 - 1939) - who was at the same time the director (superintendent in Polish - not sure about translation) of the evangelical church!

And one of members of a board of the local DV in Bydgoszcz - Otton Niefeldt - was an agent of Abwehrstelle in Stettin! DV had many more influential members with pro-Nazi or pro-Reich connections! Some of them probably died in the events on 3 & 4 September, as they have 1939 as the year of their death (like Assmann).

Further 700 (as of 1937 - in 1939 even more) - mainly young Germans - belonged to Jungdeutsche Partei.

Germans belonging to pro-Nazi Jungdeutsche Partei were described by Polish authorities in 1937 as:

"JP consists of combative element, full of enthusiasm, active, aggressive, sincerely professing Adolf Hitler's slogans and believing in possibility of their implementation in practice."

Further 480 German inhabitants of Bydgoszcz - as of 1937 - belonged to Nationalsozialistische Deutsche
Arbeiterpartei - NSDAP. I don't have to say that this party was "pro-Nazi" - it was simply Nazi.

About activities of the Nazi Party's "department" in Bydgoszcz, it was reported:


"This party, consisting in Bydgoszcz and in the Bydgoszcz periphery of 480 members, apart from propaganda work, full of radically nationalistic spirit, is expanding the net of influences especially in organizations and in business firms, sending its agents there. Activity of this party is secretive and utterly hostile to the Polish state."


The activity of this party was formally illegal, but was tolerated by the Polish authorities.

Apart from these political parties above, there were 42 more officialy non-political organizations of local Germans (as you can see Germans in Bydgoszcz were a very well organized community) - which were - to lesser or greater extent - influenced by the "brown" ideology of Good Uncle Hitler residing on the other side of the border...

Ferdinand Lang in his "Denkschrift an Herrn Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring", Bromberg 1 V 1940, wrote:


"A front of unity against the Polish state was formed in Bromberg. In 1935 in Bromberg a memorial to the then Polish prime minister Slawek was drawn up, in which it was clearly stated, that we - Germans in Poland - stand on the ground of the National-Socialist worldview and that we will fight with all available legal means for spiritual assimilation with the worldview of the Fatherland of our origin."


Some more quotes about attitudes of Germans towards their Polish neighbours in post-1934 Bydgoszcz:


"(...) Germans more and more often underlined their affiliation to the Reich, they did not try to hide their contemptuous attitude towards Polishness, they demonstratively used German language, they used Nazi salutations. Especially German youth, who were encompassed by German organizations, pastors and teachers with special care, being educated by them for nationalists and enemies of the [Polish] state, behaved like this."


Another one:


"Emotionally local Germans gravitate towards the Reich, and their external loyalty towards Poland is only the result of cold calculation and reason. But if they are ever going to have an opportunity to choose between feelings and reason, they will follow the voice of feelings."


Source:

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So - as you can see - there was very "fertile ground" for the "seed of sabotage" in Bydgoszcz...