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    How much European ancestry do Maronites have?

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    Show a little pride in your roots. Being a Maronite from the Levant is something in itself. You've held your beliefs, traditions and lands over a couple of millennia. The Jews couldn't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainn View Post
    How much European ancestry do Maronites have?
    What model do you want to try? I mean, which populations should be used as MENA and which as European when modelling Maronites?

    Have you tried taking a DNA test to see if you score any European ???

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    Minor.
    You are mostly autochthonous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    What model do you want to try? I mean, which populations should be used as MENA and which as European when modelling Maronites?

    Have you tried taking a DNA test to see if you score any European ???
    I didn’t take a test yet but it is said that European components of Maronites are usually from ancient Greeks and the Crusaders.

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    Not much for general Maronite population, but I am sure some individuals or certain families will have higher Crusader ancestry which they can probably track it down either by paper trail or at least oral history.

    For those individuals it would most likely show in DNA tests even as trace ancestry since it was ages ago ( Over 500 years).
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    My christian Lebanese great grandpa had european facial traits, and also light eyes and hair, so we suspected he might have been european by blood, at least partially. But our own DNA results proved he was unmistakably middle easterner. How do we know? Because my mom inherited 25% of middle eastern blood from him, and that’s about the amount a grandchild would get from a grandpa who was 100% middle easterner.

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    This might help you :

    However, the present-day Lebanese, in addition to their Levant_N and ancient Iranian ancestry, have a component (11%–22%) related to EHG and Steppe populations not found in Bronze Age populations (Figure 3A). We confirm the presence of this ancestry in the Lebanese by testing f4(Sidon_BA, Lebanese; Ancient Eurasian, Chimpanzee) and find that Eurasian hunter-gatherers and Steppe populations share more alleles with the Lebanese than with Sidon_BA (Figures 3B and S14).
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02929717302768

    But these components are not necessarily associated with european influx but might have been introduced by more northern populations (from armenia/caucasus) such as the people of the Kura-araxes culture or hurrians.


    We observed that the oldest individuals in our collection, from the Intermediate Bronze Age, already carried significant Zagros-related ancestry, suggesting that gene flow into the region started before ca. 2400
    BCE. This is consistent with the hypothesis that people of Kura-Araxes archaeological complex of the 3rd millennium BCE might have affected the Southern Levant not only culturally, but also through some degree of movement of people.
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...onze_Age_1.pdf

    Although these groups were named, likely based on designations (e.g., Amorites, Hurrians), the formative context of their (cultural) identity and their geographic origins remain debated. One recent hypothesis (Weiss, 2014, Weiss, 2017, Akar and Kara, 2020) associates the arrival of these groups with climate-forced population movement during the “4.2k BP event,” a Mega Drought that led to the abandonment of the entire Khabur river valley in Northern Mesopotamia and the search of nearby habitable areas.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...420305092#sec3

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