View Poll Results: Where do Moldovans/Romanians fit? What about ethnic minorities?

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  • Moldovans/Romanians: Romania, Bulgaria

    3 75.00%
  • Moldovans/Romanians: Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia

    2 50.00%
  • Moldovans/Romanians: Ukraine, Russia

    1 25.00%
  • Moldovans/Romanians: Hungary, Central Europe

    0 0%
  • Moldovans/Romanians: Greece, Albania

    0 0%
  • Ethnic Minorities: Romania, Bulgaria

    1 25.00%
  • Ethnic Minorities: Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia

    0 0%
  • Ethnic Minorities: Ukraine, Russia

    2 50.00%
  • Ethnic Minorities: Hungary, Central Europe

    2 50.00%
  • Ethnic Minorities: Greece, Albania

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    Anna Dulce is so cute. her last name means "Sweet", which is also an unusual last name. her looks aren't common either but you do see such faces every now and then. maybe some extra Ottoman/Persian/Indian, who knows. good luck to all at the Olympics! I support Moldova over Romania of course I support Romania as well, but Moldova first, because of the name
    It's not a common surname.

    In Moldova it occurs here:
    Place Incidence Frequency Rank in Area
    Chișinău Municipality 33 1:23,717 3,602
    Ungheni District 24 1:4,871 940
    Florești District 15 1:5,986 1,047
    Cahul District 10 1:12,404 2,028
    Anenii Noi District 1 1:82,583 2,676
    Călărași District 1 1:78,973 2,514
    Cimișlia District 1 1:61,962 2,110
    Edineț District 1 1:82,336 3,813
    Fălești District 1 1:92,297 2,289
    Hîncești District 1 1:121,682 2,014
    Ialoveni District 1 1:98,888 1,818
    Strășeni District 1 1:91,211 1,964

    And in Romania here:
    Place Incidence Frequency Rank in Area
    Călărași County 145 1:2,105 361
    Prahova County 95 1:7,985 1,121
    Bucharest Municipality 41 1:45,777 5,306
    Constanța County 35 1:19,508 3,364
    Iași County 28 1:27,475 4,229
    Gorj County 4 1:85,206 4,343
    Botoșani County 1 1:411,106 4,185
    Vâlcea County 1 1:370,256 4,382

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Which samples are those? I mean it's pretty obvious that if you have 30 samples and 2-3 are significantly removed from the average, then something is foreign in their ancestry. Right now in Moldova 20% of the population are ethnic minorities, and very likely way more if you consider assimilation/integration.
    There were only 8 Moldovan samples in the runs I posted. There are a total of 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" in the 1240K+HO dataset, but I included at most 8 samples per population in the runs I posted. I hadn't saved the files of the earlier runs, but when I did a new run that included all 10 samples, the three samples that got the highest percentage of the Volga-Ural component were MOL-005 (36%), MOL-015 (33%), and MOL-069 (33%). The location of all 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" was listed as "Shtefan-Vodsky district, Kaplani". The source of the samples is Jeong et al. 2019 ("The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia") (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31036896/).

    On G25, there's also a pretty huge level of diversity among the Moldovan samples. This shows a secondary PCA based on scaled G25 coordinates:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    There were only 8 Moldovan samples in the runs I posted. There are a total of 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" in the 1240K+HO dataset, but I included at most 8 samples per population in the runs I posted. I hadn't saved the files of the earlier runs, but when I did a new run that included all 10 samples, the three samples that got the highest percentage of the Volga-Ural component were MOL-005 (36%), MOL-015 (33%), and MOL-069 (33%). The location of all 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" was listed as "Shtefan-Vodsky district, Kaplani". The source of the samples is Jeong et al. 2019 ("The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia") (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31036896/).

    On G25, there's also a pretty huge level of diversity among the Moldovan samples. This shows a secondary PCA based on scaled G25 coordinates:
    These are them in K13

    F. Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    MOL-005 21.01 25.42 16.62 11.92 18.51 4.11 0.58 0 0 0 0.50 0.51 0.82
    MOL-015 18.27 19.97 19.01 15.32 19.44 4.68 0.12 1.50 0.68 0.54 0 0 0.48
    MOL-069 26.39 24.34 17.44 13.21 12.41 4.18 0 0.31 0.71 0 0.89 0 0.12

    MOL-15 is the most Southern sample from Moldova labelled as Moldovan/Romanian that I have seen.
    How do they score the Volga-Ural component if all of them score less East Asian/Siberian than the majority of Moldovans/Romanians? I am at the higher end scoring 4.6% for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Moldovans/Romanians
    Of the basic types, I think Alpine and Mediterranean are dominant. The minorities look noticeably different.

    Aaron Cook didn't make it huh.
    Last edited by Davy Jones's Locker; 08-18-2021 at 06:43 PM.

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