Are Irish people closer to Norwegians or the French in appearance

[Grace O'Malley]

I like being called JR (it's also the initials of Johnny Rebel, a country singer I like). I mean that we are the most NW-shifted people in the world. Eastern shift eventually lands you in Siberia, and southern shift eventually lands you in North Africa. Look at the K15 PCA, we are the farthest from either Siberians or splaboos.

(Balts are slightly more northern than us, but they also have more Siberian i.e. non-Caucasoid than us)



I barely tan, if at all, but I do get burned spending 2 hours at an outdoor swimming pool in California in the summer.

Thank you. That makes more sense. White is a bit ambiguous to me. I prefer more definitive labels like European, Irish, Gael etc. Yes Irish are very NW European which I've been saying on here for years.

[Septentrion]

Thank you. That makes more sense. White is a bit ambiguous to me. I prefer more definitive labels like European, Irish, Gael etc. Yes Irish are very NW European which I've been saying on here for years.

Oh well, NW Europeans are pretty white.

[Grace O'Malley]

Oh well, NW Europeans are pretty white.

Yes but white is very subjective. Some people think one group of people are white and others don't. Some non-Europeans are white. I've seen obviously Latinos labelled as white in the US. So define white? People will have different definitions.

[Septentrion]

Yes but white is very subjective. Some people think one group of people are white and others don't. Some non-Europeans are white. I've seen obviously Latinos labelled as white in the US. So define white? People will have different definitions.

A White person is a person of European descent. There are non-European Caucasoids, because not all Caucasoids are White. That’s where the confusion is. Since all Whites are Caucasoids, this is why the definition of Caucasoids came to be synonymous to White. It brought a lot confusion. However not all Caucasoids are Whites.