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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    More like Dacian imo. I think that Vlachs are tied more to variations of J2 and R1b.

    Haplogroup Vlach Albania Vlach Macedonia Constanta (Vlachs) Vlach Avg
    R1b 14% 25% 33% 24%
    R1a 2% 18% 2% 10%
    I2 26% 19% 19% 21%
    J2 34% 17% 38% 26%
    E1b1b 17% 19% 7% 16%
    J1 0% 0% 0% 0%
    G2a 7% 3% 0% 3%
    I1 0% 0% 0% 0%
    N1c 0% 0% 0% 0%
    T 0% 0% 0% 0%
    G1 0% 0% 0% 0%
    Q1 0% 0% 0% 0%
    E (other) 0% 0% 0% 0%
    Other 0% 0% 0% 0%
    Total 58 108 42 208


    Haplogroup Oltenia Muntenia Dobrogea Wallachia Transylvania Moldavia Republic of Moldova
    R1b 15% 15% 18% 15% 19.5% 13% 10.5%
    R1a 20% 12% 8% 15% 19% 18% 30%
    I2 26% 23% 38% 25% 25.5% 32% 29%
    J2 13% 19% 8% 16% 13% 14% 5%
    E1b1b 15.5% 16% 8% 16% 12% 10% 14%
    J1 1% 2% 0% 1% 1% 1% 2%
    G2a 2% 6% 13% 5% 2% 3% 1%
    I1 5.5% 4% 0% 4% 3% 6% 3.5%
    N1c 0.5% 1% 5% 1% 2% 2% 3%
    T 0.5% 1% 0% 1% 2% 0% 2%
    G1 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
    Q1 0% 0.5% 0% 1% 1% 0% 0%
    E (other) 1% 0% 2% 1% 0% 0% 0%
    Other 0% 0.5% 0% 0% 0% 1% 0%
    Total 234 293 39 566 340 191 229
    Daco-Scythian* lol

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    "There are two predominant E-V13 subclades in the Balkans:
    E-V13->Z1057->CTS1273->BY3880->Z5017
    E-V13->Z1057->CTS1273->BY3880->Z5018
    The same is valid for the whole Eastern Europe in general. On the other hand Western Europe has a single predominant subclade and it is E-V13->Z1057->CTS1273->BY3880->Z5018. Though IMO the diversity in Western Europe is not low.

    When it comes to the Balkans a few more subclades are present there. But if we take into account number of clades under BY3880 which haven't been found in the Balkans (so far), I think we can't say that the diversity is high."


    Just putting this info for me to reference later lol.

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    E-V13 is not older than Middle Bronze Age in and around Transylvania/Carpathian mountains.

    So, you are not far away from the truth when you mentioned the Middle to Late Bronze Age connection of your subclade with the Southern Balkan ones. Probably some Ancient Greeks carried that, after all people in and around Danube Valley heavily migrated and burned down Mycenae during Late Bronze Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    E-V13 is not older than Middle Bronze Age in and around Transylvania/Carpathian mountains.

    So, you are not far away from the truth when you mentioned the Middle to Late Bronze Age connection of your subclade with the Southern Balkan ones. Probably some Ancient Greeks carried that, after all people in and around Danube Valley heavily migrated and burned down Mycenae during Late Bronze Age.
    Without knowing what culture carried E-V13 and where it spread from its hard to understand any connection. There was a recent find from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelsberg_culture from Neolithic Germany that was heavily E1b and I2, (for some reason no G) Regarding my clade the most probable scenario is that indo-Europeans assimilated this clade somewhere in the Carpathian or Ukrainian steppe area and spread it east, south and west.

    This idea that E-V13 is of Balkan origin isn’t sustained by the evidence. We don’t see E-V13 pop up in the Balkans after the Cardium Pottery sample, which is debatable where it came from because the earliest sample is in Spain so it could have been brought East.

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    I am E-V13 too! How can I find my own subclade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    I am E-V13 too! How can I find my own subclade?
    Yfull, Big-Y 700, but I would get nebula genomics full genome testing. They already offer Yfull and soon they will offer Big Y-700. So you basically get full genome plus those things

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    Yfull, Big-Y 700, but I would get nebula genomics full genome testing. They already offer Yfull and soon they will offer Big Y-700. So you basically get full genome plus those things
    they are very expensive 1199 dollors at least the ultra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    they are very expensive 1199 dollors at least the ultra
    The 30x full genome on nebula is $300 right now. It comes with YFULL which is available now, and Big-Y 700 which will be available sometime this year.

    https://nebula.org/whole-genome-sequencing-dna-test/

    https://imgur.com/a/aeWqA9u


    If I understand everything correctly and nothing is misrepresented by them then this is the most economical way to get everything. I wish I did this before. Wasted so much money on other tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    The 30x full genome on nebula is $300 right now. It comes with YFULL which is available now, and Big-Y 700 which will be available sometime this year.

    https://nebula.org/whole-genome-sequencing-dna-test/

    https://imgur.com/a/aeWqA9u


    If I understand everything correctly and nothing is misrepresented by them then this is the most economical way to get everything. I wish I did this before. Wasted so much money on other tests.
    It looks like you have to get a subscription to maintain access to your reports. You can continue to access your raw data without the subscription, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    It looks like you have to get a subscription to maintain access to your reports. You can continue to access your raw data without the subscription, though.
    Yeah that’s true but I got the lifetime subscription for like 300 bucks off or something. They update their library about every week.

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