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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiwalo View Post
    These kind of eyes are quite extreme. They exist but they are rare. Overall, these more exotic Finnish types tend to be very overrepresented on these sites, as most intelligent users should realize.
    As a Danish member stated it: what is rare in Finland, yet rarer in Denmark, is typical in Finland. If you remember this wisdom, you'll easily cope here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Look Catheryn Winnichk. She has cheek bones - the line from chin to forehead is not straight. In my family all women have higher cheek bones than my male relatives.

    her cheeckbones are just like mine its a common trait among northern Caucasians too

    Quote Originally Posted by Saiwalo View Post
    These kind of eyes are quite extreme. They exist but they are rare. Overall, these more exotic Finnish types tend to be very overrepresented on these sites, as most intelligent users should realize.
    Slanted eyes are common with high cheekbones in Finland like Lemminkäinen said and its no secret, but I thought this boy's eyes are a bit extreme than the usual Finnish eyes plus I know him, so why wouldnt I share to ask opinions? this is the first time I am asking about Finnish phenotype and I dont believe it is overrepresenting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buusra View Post
    her cheeckbones are just like mine its a common trait among northern Caucasians too



    Slanted eyes are common with high cheekbones in Finland like Lemminkäinen said and its no secret, but I thought this boy's eyes are a bit extreme than the usual Finnish eyes plus I know him, so why wouldnt I share to ask opinions? this is the first time I am asking about Finnish phenotype and I dont believe it is overrepresenting
    I have no cheebones. Saiwalo onviously lacks them too. I don't know about Komintasavalta, he is too shy to show his picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buusra View Post
    her cheeckbones are just like mine its a common trait among northern Caucasians too



    Slanted eyes are common with high cheekbones in Finland like Lemminkäinen said and its no secret, but I thought this boy's eyes are a bit extreme than the usual Finnish eyes plus I know him, so why wouldnt I share to ask opinions? this is the first time I am asking about Finnish phenotype and I dont believe it is overrepresenting
    Firstly, my message wasn't obviously directed towards you personally, but this boards attitude towards Finns as a whole. Anyway, calling slanted eyes common is a bit much, when in fact they are by far minority (and this is coming from a northern Finn).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    I have no cheebones. Saiwalo onviously lacks them too. I don't know about Komintasavalta, he is too shy to show his picture.
    true usually women have it more in general. I noticed that I inherited it from my grandmother (via my mother), not my father

    Quote Originally Posted by Saiwalo View Post
    Firstly, my message wasn't obviously directed towards you personally, but this boards attitude towards Finns as a whole. Anyway, calling slanted eyes common is a bit much, when in fact they are by far minority (and this is coming from a northern Finn).
    ok then, and this young guy might have Saami ancestors even, I wouldnt know it


    but it is amazing to think about how genes show it depending on the background and history
    Last edited by Nanushka; 07-24-2021 at 01:18 PM.

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    The average Finn hardly has Mongoliform eyes (but because they are more occurring, they catch attention from people who do not have or lower levels of Siberian etc).

    The observations tabulated by Zolotarev confirm this general impression. The facial outline is called rectangular in 55 per cent of the series, and ovoid in 33 per cent; the nasal profile is straight in half the sample, concave in 40 per cent, and convex in the remaining tenth. The tip of the nose points upward twice as frequently as downward; the lateral profile of the forehead is as a rule steep; in only one out of ten instances are the two profile lines parallel, as in the characteristic Nordic form. Mongoloid features, including an internal eyefold and extreme malar projection, are not typical, but are more frequent in the series from the carelian Republic than in that from the Volga country. Only six men out of 1008 have the true Mongolian eyefold and these are all in the Republic series.

    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX9.htm

    That's like 0.5%. Estonian physical anthropologist Karin Mark gave the data that 1.8% of Finns had epicanthic eyefolds: https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/sta...ych-w-tabeli-2 (Polish)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    The average Finn hardly has Mongoliform eyes (but because they are more occurring, they catch attention from people who do not have or lower levels of Siberian etc).

    The observations tabulated by Zolotarev confirm this general impression. The facial outline is called rectangular in 55 per cent of the series, and ovoid in 33 per cent; the nasal profile is straight in half the sample, concave in 40 per cent, and convex in the remaining tenth. The tip of the nose points upward twice as frequently as downward; the lateral profile of the forehead is as a rule steep; in only one out of ten instances are the two profile lines parallel, as in the characteristic Nordic form. Mongoloid features, including an internal eyefold and extreme malar projection, are not typical, but are more frequent in the series from the carelian Republic than in that from the Volga country. Only six men out of 1008 have the true Mongolian eyefold and these are all in the Republic series.

    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX9.htm

    That's like 0.5%. Estonian physical anthropologist Karin Mark gave the data that 1.8% of Finns had epicanthic eyefolds: https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/sta...ych-w-tabeli-2 (Polish)
    Makes sense, I've been to Finland several times and if anything they look more like Swedes with a somewhat distinct component.

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    I saw a guy with the same phenotype in Siberia.Nordid+uralid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    The average Finn hardly has Mongoliform eyes (but because they are more occurring, they catch attention from people who do not have or lower levels of Siberian etc).

    The observations tabulated by Zolotarev confirm this general impression. The facial outline is called rectangular in 55 per cent of the series, and ovoid in 33 per cent; the nasal profile is straight in half the sample, concave in 40 per cent, and convex in the remaining tenth. The tip of the nose points upward twice as frequently as downward; the lateral profile of the forehead is as a rule steep; in only one out of ten instances are the two profile lines parallel, as in the characteristic Nordic form. Mongoloid features, including an internal eyefold and extreme malar projection, are not typical, but are more frequent in the series from the carelian Republic than in that from the Volga country. Only six men out of 1008 have the true Mongolian eyefold and these are all in the Republic series.

    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX9.htm

    That's like 0.5%. Estonian physical anthropologist Karin Mark gave the data that 1.8% of Finns had epicanthic eyefolds: https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/sta...ych-w-tabeli-2 (Polish)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Makes sense, I've been to Finland several times and if anything they look more like Swedes with a somewhat distinct component.
    Yeah but even Swedes look semi-Mongoloid from the point of view of Chad Spaniards like Viejo.

    On a scale of how Mongoloid the eyes of a population looks, where 0% is the Spanish average 100% is the Han average, and where it's possible to go below zero percent or above hundred percent, I would guess that the Finnish average is at least 20%.

    You can't measure the Mongoloidness of eye shape based on the prevalence of a complete epicanthic fold alone. You also have to account for palpebral fissure inclination, palpebral fissure height, pretarsal show, etc.

    I collected measurements published in Karin Mark's book "Soome-ugri rahvaste füüsiline antropoloogia" from Lucas's website linked by Östsvensk. I then converted the measurements into z-scores by calculating the average value and standard deviation among the population averages included in Mark's book. For 7 measurements relating to having Mongoloid-like eyes, the average z-score of Finns (not including Northeastern Finns or Ingrians) was -0.4, which was far above the two Indo-European populations included in the book: Finland-Swedes (-0.8) and Russians from the Middle Volga region (-1.0). But Finland-Swedes and Russians from the Middle Volga are some of the least woggy Indo-European populations, and both are mixed with the local semi-Mongoloid populations, so the gap between Finns and Southwestern Europeans would probably be much higher.


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