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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
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    This so-called "prophets" are only aware of their "accessible" geography. They never talk about masses of people, that live in lets say south america, despite talking to "God" periodically.
    How ironic that you would say that here.
    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Most of these could be attributed to any time period, they are far too vague to be taken seriously. When you think about the time period when these world ending predictions were written, most people travelled on foot and didn't go far from their place of birth. A flood in a river valley could wipe out your whole world.

    Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Bukhari are not universally accepted as valid. For some Muslims, this is just an argument against Sunni Hadith verification methods, assuming that these ahadith are considered valid.

    There's many different versions of that one, and the ones that are in the likes of Sunan Abu Dawood were conveniently graded Dai'f (weak) by 20th century Salafis though their content is essentially the same as the one in the Sahih collections.
    You're addressing OP specifically, you would have to prove Shi'ism or whatever it is you're using for that argument, before you can use it in your defense. Otherwise it is the same whether you say that "This isn't accepted by Hindus" - yeah, but Sunnis don't believe Hinduism is correct to begin with, so who cares.

    Not to mention Islamic eschatology is the perfect reciprocal of Revelations.

    The Antichrist for instance hails from Syria. The Bible refers to him as the Assyrian. Their Mahdi (messiah) is our Antichrist and our Christ is their Al-Dajjāl (Antichrist). Our beast that resembles a lamb but speaks as the dragon (Satan) is their Isa (Islamic Jesus) that will come to the world, denounce the Christian faith, and shatter the cross (destroy the Church). He, alongside the Mahdi, will force the entire world into Islam and following Allah, bowing to the Kaaba. He will force everyone to convert or be beheaded (just as the Book of Matthew says).
    What kinda découpé cut-up bullshit take is this haha. You got it wrong, you even got the Christian part wrong. You keep mixing them. Dajjal will be the one who will do the forced conversions. So you think Christians believe that Jesus will tour around the world and genocide people.
    If I asked you now, you couldn't even tell me how many people will live at the time that Jesus will supposedly "force everyone to convert". You don't even know at what point in time everyone would become muslim, what precedes it and what follows it.
    And how retarded you would have to be, to be one of the people in that moment, seeing a man brought back to life telling everyone "he won't be able to do that twice", Dajjal then being unable to, and you go like "this is obviously fake, clearly that resurrected guy lied, clearly this impotent demon is Jesus".
    Secondly we all know of Philippians 2:10-11, so you can cool it with soyfaced false humility - if you want to believe that, that's fine. We don't have a problem with you, you have a problem with us.
    Mohammed contradicted himself multiple times about the Dajjal. In Sahih Muslim 2944, he says:

    This is obviously wrong as 70,000 Persian Jews don't exist at all anymore. Let alone in Isfahan.
    No it's just that your rationale is very limited. Someone could've told the Sumerians 5 000 years ago that one day Jews would leave Sumer, before there were any Jews in that region, and that person would have been right. So according to your logic the Jewish aliyah was an impossibility that happened.
    He also accused an Arab Jewish child, Ibn Sayyad, of being the Dajjal because he didn't believe Mohammed was a Prophet. This is also contradicted by the fact he thought the Dajjal would emerge once the Byzantines were defeated. That never happened either.
    No, he suspected the child because of the child's magic powers. He went to investigate. Ibn Sayyad disappeared mysteriously one day.
    Majority of scholars tell us that the conquest of Constantinople mentioned in the hadith has not occurred yet, it will be in the future. The conquest of Constantinople by the Ottoman Turks is not the one mentioned in the hadith.

    But Constantinople (now it's Istanbul) is currently run by a Sunni Muslim government (who are getting increasingly extremist), so presumably this prophecy means that Istanbul will have to be retaken over by "Romans" and then these Romans will lose another battle at the end of the world?

    Almost like you shouldn't use things based on the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East in the Early Middle Ages to inform anything about the future lel.

    Basically, Islam is an obvious lie and only low IQ morons from third-world countries could ever believe in it (Islam is simply a religion for brown and black people).

    When you examine all three primary Abrahamic faiths they all come to one conclusion; someone will try to oppose your X faith and those who are not part of mine will die, but don't worry if you are in mine you're perfectly fine. This is another all too common methods that ALL belief systems use to keep their believers in check.
    You say that because that's your belief, and you won't question your own belief. But the universe doesn't consider your feelings or preferences when it "decides" what to be. You either get with it or you can be an atheist and think that there are more than two genders.

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