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    Quote Originally Posted by #Oda# View Post
    I feel pity for you, that you are not allowed to act out your poor caged Nazi-soul.
    (Sure. )

    I know that you are perfectly in line with the intolerant and witch-burning mainstream and cannot resist stepping in here and accusing.

    You are figuratively the German Schäferhund that runs around the sheep herd and bites the sheep that dare to distance.

    We will have a use for this later, once the mainstream leads us in a meaningful direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMXCV View Post
    If the claimed borders of German-Austria would’ve been realised, the great majority of my ancestors’ places of birth would fall within them, with the remaining being in the — I suspect — Hungarian successor state…

    Interesting. So Pettau and Marburg area.

    It may first be noted that the later Munich conference did not assign exclaves like Brünn and Iglau to Germany. The German part of South Tyrol is legitimately included. Obviously the Hungarian state borders were not questioned by German-Austria and the later Burgenland was considered taboo.

    As for your area, do you know why that was included? It ought to have been an ethnic assessment. Before I try to study it: Is all of Lower Styria included or just a part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMXCV View Post
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    Unrelated: Have you considered "MVM"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Obviously the Hungarian state borders were not questioned by German-Austria and the later Burgenland was considered taboo.
    On this map, however, part of today’s Burgenland and beyond is labelled as Deutsch-Westungarn and shaded but not shown as part of German-Austria according to the borders of the Enforcing Order of 3 January 1919.

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    As for your area, do you know why that was included? It ought to have been an ethnic assessment. Before I try to study it: Is all of Lower Styria included or just a part?
    I suspect the reason for its inclusion was to encompass the German strongholds of Maribor/Marburg and Ptuj/Pettau, which were linguistic/ethnic islands surrounded by Slovenes. It clearly isn’t an ethnic border in this part. The whole of Lower Styria isn’t included; the former crownland’s border is displayed in brown on the quoted map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Unrelated: Have you considered "MVM"?
    I actually haven’t. Besides being untraditional, I guess people would also suspect it represents initials instead of Roman numerals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    No and I also did not state so.

    It is admittedly an exaggeration. But it is intended to draw attention to the fact that many people are not aware of the enormous lack of freedom that exists if you want to leave the mainstream in a certain direction. A tremendous lack of freedom compared to other countries that are generally regarded as liberal. This political oppression must be made public and made aware so that it can hopefully be abolished at some point. It is unbearable and humiliating.
    There are more ''humiliating'' things than that (especially if you can live well vs people in those example countries; North Korea or ex. Sovjet Union).


    Someone (another country) will stick their noses into your own country's internal matters. And here in TA that has been seen like ''ok'' ... part of someone's rights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMXCV View Post
    On this map, however, part of today’s Burgenland and beyond is labelled as Deutsch-Westungarn and shaded but not shown as part of German-Austria according to the borders of the Enforcing Order of 3 January 1919.
    True! Btw. it's somewhat bigger than today's Burgenland and contains also Preßburg / Bratislava!

    Quote Originally Posted by MCMXCV View Post
    I suspect the reason for its inclusion was to encapsulate the German strongholds of Maribor/Marburg and Ptuj/Pettau, which were linguistic/ethnic islands surrounded by Slovenes. It clearly isn’t an ethnic border in this part. The whole of Lower Styria isn’t included; the former crownland’s border is displayed in brown in the quoted map.
    Thanks. Yes, that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Interesting. So Pettau and Marburg area.

    It may first be noted that the later Munich conference did not assign exclaves like Brünn and Iglau to Germany. The German part of South Tyrol is legitimately included. Obviously the Hungarian state borders were not questioned by German-Austria and the later Burgenland was considered taboo.

    As for your area, do you know why that was included? It ought to have been an ethnic assessment. Before I try to study it: Is all of Lower Styria included or just a part?
    Wasn't the Burgenland the only territorial gain for both German states after WW1?

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    Interesting. But i don't think it is a good Idea.
    "European Lives Matter" would be better for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortress europe View Post
    Wasn't the Burgenland the only territorial gain for both German states after WW1?
    Yes. Only Hungary was the even worse treated loser of WW1 which is reflected here.

    Although the handling of the Burgenland was okay based on ethnicity and the self-determination of peoples.
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