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    Default Best way to tell Baltoids/Eastern Slavs apart from Nordics ?

    Help on how to do this

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    Facial shape and eye area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Facial shape and eye area.

    Could you post excamples

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    For Baltoids it's higher cephalic index (skull is frontally wider and shorter from a profile, usually with a flattened occipit) plus generally softer facial features.

    For 'Eastern Slavs'... well this is not a racial type. But Slavic Nordoids tend to have a higher skull (East Nordic) than Germanic Nordoids (Hallstatt Nordic).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    For Baltoids it's higher cephalic index (skull is frontally wider and shorter from a profile, usually with a flattened occipit) plus generally softer facial features.

    For 'Eastern Slavs'... well this is not a racial type. But Slavic Nordoids tend to have a higher skull (East Nordic) than Germanic Nordoids (Hallstatt Nordic).

    What are most Slavic white Russians?

    Most models seem to be nordic it seems. So softer jaws on females anf roubder face is baltoid?

    What about height?

    I also notice many slavic women have long thin digits. Fingers and toes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theskyisblue2 View Post
    Most models seem to be nordic it seems.
    Nordic type is overrepresented in modeling and sports (except disciplines that require strenght more than speed, such as weightlifting, they tend to have Paleo-Europoid types overrepresentaation), because it's naturally quite tall, long legged and ectomorph (naturally skinny and it's quite difficult for them to get either fat or lean comapred to other types).

    Quote Originally Posted by Theskyisblue2 View Post
    So softer jaws on females anf roubder face is baltoid?
    It's not exclusively Baltoid, but yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theskyisblue2 View Post
    What about height?
    Nordics are usually taller, but height can be influenced by other factors apart from genetics as well, so it's not a rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theskyisblue2 View Post
    I also notice many slavic women have long thin digits. Fingers and toes
    Interesting because I don't see it often in Polish women.

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    Confusing also there are Baltic in the Nordic, and Nordic in the Baltic

    Also disagree with more models beign Nordic, Vicotria Secret models look infantil with tall bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Confusing also there are Baltic in the Nordic, and Nordic in the Baltic
    True, maybe except Denmark which doesn't have many Baltic types and is more Borreby influenced instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Also disagree with more models beign Nordic, Vicotria Secret models look infantil with tall bodies.
    Then we have different opinions. From what I noticed, in Eastern Europe models tend to be more Nordic than an average Slavic woman. Plus Nordics have good genetical predispoditions because of height and ectomorphism, though on the other hand they may be sometimes too horse faced to be photogenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    For Baltoids it's higher cephalic index (skull is frontally wider and shorter from a profile, usually with a flattened occipit) plus generally softer facial features.
    I don't know what a Baltoid is, but at least East Baltid is a coarse and hard type, not soft, and it has a rectangular face shape with a heavy jaw.

    Günther (https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/...eoehchap2e.htm):

    The breadth and stockiness is even more pronounced in the East Baltic race than in the Alpine; and there is, furthermore, the certain coarseness of bone which is so characteristic of it. The relatively great breadth of shoulder in the East Baltic race is particularly marked, and gives a coarsening effect. [...]

    The East Baltic head, too, gives a broad and coarse-boned effect. It is relatively large and heavy, and in particular the face has a massive effect compared with the cranial portion. This is heightened by the characteristic under jaw, which is massive and heavy, and broad, short, and bony in structure, with an unprominent chin. [...]

    The fleshy parts show fewer deposits of fat than in the Alpine race; the coarseness of the skull bones is not hidden.

    Coon:

    - "The bigonial diameter of the Finns is very broad,[103] to the standards of the very quite equal Livs, and gives the Finnish face the square appearance for which it is noted." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX11.htm)
    - "In bodily proportions the Esths are seen to be frequently heavily built, with long bodies and the extremely high relative span of 107 or 108. It was this excessive development of the arms and shoulders, along with a wide mandible, that the Norwegians found most characteristic of the Finns who had affected the population of their southeastern provinces." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX10.htm)

    Lundman (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rastyper-04.htm):

    a) the Tavastid type, below Swedish average length (c. 170 cm.), especially broad-axis and coarse with short legs and medium arms. Head short (BLI c. 82-83) and high (HLI c. 76) with flat neck, moreover large wide and knotty (facial index c. 85). Large square slightly flat face with steep profile, high wide forehead and wide angular and plump non-protruding chin. Bottom wide but often pointed upturned nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    I don't know what a Baltoid is, but at least East Baltid is a coarse and hard type, not soft, and it has a rectangular face shape with a heavy jaw.

    Günther (https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/...eoehchap2e.htm):

    The breadth and stockiness is even more pronounced in the East Baltic race than in the Alpine; and there is, furthermore, the certain coarseness of bone which is so characteristic of it. The relatively great breadth of shoulder in the East Baltic race is particularly marked, and gives a coarsening effect. [...]

    The East Baltic head, too, gives a broad and coarse-boned effect. It is relatively large and heavy, and in particular the face has a massive effect compared with the cranial portion. This is heightened by the characteristic under jaw, which is massive and heavy, and broad, short, and bony in structure, with an unprominent chin. [...]

    The fleshy parts show fewer deposits of fat than in the Alpine race; the coarseness of the skull bones is not hidden.

    Coon:

    - "The bigonial diameter of the Finns is very broad,[103] to the standards of the very quite equal Livs, and gives the Finnish face the square appearance for which it is noted." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX11.htm)
    - "In bodily proportions the Esths are seen to be frequently heavily built, with long bodies and the extremely high relative span of 107 or 108. It was this excessive development of the arms and shoulders, along with a wide mandible, that the Norwegians found most characteristic of the Finns who had affected the population of their southeastern provinces." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX10.htm)

    Lundman (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rastyper-04.htm):

    a) the Tavastid type, below Swedish average length (c. 170 cm.), especially broad-axis and coarse with short legs and medium arms. Head short (BLI c. 82-83) and high (HLI c. 76) with flat neck, moreover large wide and knotty (facial index c. 85). Large square slightly flat face with steep profile, high wide forehead and wide angular and plump non-protruding chin. Bottom wide but often pointed upturned nose.

    Senpai classify me.

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