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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
    Both in equal measure. If Brown and Black people fail, it's mostly due to genetic factors. So the differences of economical and social system of their host country will barely change anything to that.



    That retarded Portos obviously has not spent his childhood in France, or be educated in a school in France, or even in any school.



    Almost no French believe, or have been taught that the French cuisine is the best of have the best literature, or the best wine. But most know, that French are among the best for this and better than Iberans. Not because of French chauvinism, but because these are objective truth, which is even recognised in the Anglosphere. In fact, foreigners are much more prone to praise French culture and be Francophile than French themselves.

    Iberians, however, know that they are inferior, and that their history has been failure and mediocrity since at least the 18th century. That's why they are brainwashed since childhood that they are the best and try to denigrate others Western Europeans, in an attempt to cope with ther inferiority complex.

    France is on the podium for the best cuisine, and is better than the IP: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...res/index.html https://www.morethanshipping.com/top...-in-the-world/

    France is also recognised as the best wine maker nations:

    https://all.accor.com/gb/united-king...ns-3c795.shtml



    French literature is recognised worldwide as among the best. Unlike the Iberian one, which is more mediocre than Indian and Arabic literature. Their number of significant figures in literature is insignificant compared with the number of significant figures in France. In literature like in others fields. Just look at these thread about literature and which country is the best at it. You will see that France is quoted numerous times, while Iberian countries almost never.

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=1119379
    https://www.quora.com/Which-culture-...rld-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-country-...n-your-opinion
    https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-r...-of-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-European...est-literature

    Most French know that there was an American Revolution and an English Revolution before. But the French Revolution had greater impact on the following revolutionary movement in Europe and even in Latin America, and was more an inspiration than the Anglo-Saxons revolutions. So, in that sense, the French Revolution was indeed the mothers of all ones.

    Napoléon is absolutely not presented as "the greatest", he is a controversional figure who is disliked and even loathed by a lage part of French from the far-left to the far-right. He is considered as great, yes, because he objectively was, but not as "the greatest". But he was greater than any Iberian who ever existed, that's true.

    Almost no French believe that France has won because of the French Resistance. French are not like the Iberians, who are delusional and have been brainwashed since childhood to believe that they could have won the Peninsular War without the help of the Brits or if most of Europe had not coalised against France, despite their troops were so mediocre than they bite the dust countless times against the French, despite their were more numerous than the French and fought on their own ground.



    Brits are realistic. That's why they say their food is shit, and also why the French cuisine is recognised in the Anglosphere as among the best of the worlds, and better than Iberian cuisine.



    Hooliganism is more a British thing than a French thing. Yes. And that's not a very good point for the Brits. However, when they have been routed by the Germans in 1940 and had to flee to their rainy island while the French were covering their ass it was another story.
    This is not the place to have yet another dig at Iberians - I was specifically comparing Britain and France here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    This is not the place to have yet another dig at Iberians...
    His whole activity on this forum revolves around that, just check his posting history...clearly a mental case.
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    Europe is fake, european race doesn't exist, it's just a conglomeration of retardeds from their own land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
    Both in equal measure. If Brown and Black people fail, it's mostly due to genetic factors. So the differences of economical and social system of their host country will barely change anything to that.



    That retarded Portos obviously has not spent his childhood in France, or be educated in a school in France, or even in any school.



    Almost no French believe, or have been taught that the French cuisine is the best of have the best literature, or the best wine. But most know, that French are among the best for this and better than Iberans. Not because of French chauvinism, but because these are objective truth, which is even recognised in the Anglosphere. In fact, foreigners are much more prone to praise French culture and be Francophile than French themselves.

    Iberians, however, know that they are inferior, and that their history has been failure and mediocrity since at least the 18th century. That's why they are brainwashed since childhood that they are the best and try to denigrate others Western Europeans, in an attempt to cope with ther inferiority complex.

    France is on the podium for the best cuisine, and is better than the IP: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...res/index.html https://www.morethanshipping.com/top...-in-the-world/

    France is also recognised as the best wine maker nations:

    https://all.accor.com/gb/united-king...ns-3c795.shtml



    French literature is recognised worldwide as among the best. Unlike the Iberian one, which is more mediocre than Indian and Arabic literature. Their number of significant figures in literature is insignificant compared with the number of significant figures in France. In literature like in others fields. Just look at these thread about literature and which country is the best at it. You will see that France is quoted numerous times, while Iberian countries almost never.

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=1119379
    https://www.quora.com/Which-culture-...rld-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-country-...n-your-opinion
    https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-r...-of-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-European...est-literature

    Most French know that there was an American Revolution and an English Revolution before. But the French Revolution had greater impact on the following revolutionary movement in Europe and even in Latin America, and was more an inspiration than the Anglo-Saxons revolutions. So, in that sense, the French Revolution was indeed the mothers of all ones.

    Napoléon is absolutely not presented as "the greatest", he is a controversional figure who is disliked and even loathed by a lage part of French from the far-left to the far-right. He is considered as great, yes, because he objectively was, but not as "the greatest". But he was greater than any Iberian who ever existed, that's true.

    Almost no French believe that France has won because of the French Resistance. French are not like the Iberians, who are delusional and have been brainwashed since childhood to believe that they could have won the Peninsular War without the help of the Brits or if most of Europe had not coalised against France, despite their troops were so mediocre than they bite the dust countless times against the French, despite their were more numerous than the French and fought on their own ground.



    Brits are realistic. That's why they say their food is shit, and also why the French cuisine is recognised in the Anglosphere as among the best of the worlds, and better than Iberian cuisine.



    Hooliganism is more a British thing than a French thing. Yes. And that's not a very good point for the Brits. However, when they have been routed by the Germans in 1940 and had to flee to their rainy island while the French were covering their ass it was another story.
    I can agree that France is more historically influential than Spain, but denying that spanish cuisine is one of the best out there, alongside the italian (my favorite) is being in denial

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    Not going to waste my time talking about the uk, without caps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
    Both in equal measure. If Brown and Black people fail, it's mostly due to genetic factors. So the differences of economical and social system of their host country will barely change anything to that.
    In their defense I am obliged to say that they are not failing in replacing the ethnic french, that's for sure...



    That retarded Portos obviously has not spent his childhood in France, or be educated in a school in France, or even in any school.
    Fortunately, otherwise I could end up being a bitter immigrant in Hungary or something similar.

    Almost no French believe, or have been taught that the French cuisine is the best of have the best literature, or the best wine. But most know, that French are among the best for this and better than Iberans. Not because of French chauvinism, but because these are objective truth, which is even recognised in the Anglosphere. In fact, foreigners are much more prone to praise French culture and be Francophile than French themselves.
    Infact most well traveled french people recognize their cuisine and wine are overrated and especially overpriced when compared with others. Average people can't afford pretensious Michelin starred restaurants and the most popular dishes in France are pizza and couscous, facts not opinions.

    https://cultureviande.eu/bilan-conso...ancais-kantar/

    https://telunchef.tv/pourquoi-le-cou...-des-francais/

    Food wise France was good until 15-20 years ago, now it's decadent like it is the french culture and language, which will be worldwide irrelevant in a matter of decades since France is dying and only created hopeless third world colonies that are economic and social catastrophes. Francophilia was a 19th century phenomenon and that is an objective reality.

    Iberians, however, know that they are inferior, and that their history has been failure and mediocrity since at least the 18th century. That's why they are brainwashed since childhood that they are the best and try to denigrate others Western Europeans, in an attempt to cope with ther inferiority complex.
    That is absurd, in general iberians are very self critic and past generations used to look up to some other western european countries because of their economic and social development...not anymore since many of those countries are clearly on suicide mode and are becoming dysfunctional societies. Actually it is often foreigners that value and praise our countries, that's why they are consistently among the favorite destinations for expats.

    If there is someone who is obsessed denigrating other nationalities (particularly southern europeans) it is you, a quick search on your posting history leaves no doubts about it.

    French literature is recognised worldwide as among the best. Unlike the Iberian one, which is more mediocre than Indian and Arabic literature. Their number of significant figures in literature is insignificant compared with the number of significant figures in France. In literature like in others fields. Just look at these thread about literature and which country is the best at it. You will see that France is quoted numerous times, while Iberian countries almost never.

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=1119379
    https://www.quora.com/Which-culture-...rld-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-country-...n-your-opinion
    https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-r...-of-literature
    https://www.quora.com/Which-European...est-literature
    Your sources are hilarious as usual (quora posts)

    If you don't want to sound like an hysterical butthurt teenager more than you already do, you'd better start using credible sources instead of random internet opinions.

    Going by the nobel prize in literature laureates by country, which is often a political vote and traditionally biased towards Scandinavian countries since it's voted by the swedish academy afterall but at least gives us a semi-objective term of comparison about the level of their modern literature, Spain has won 6 times and Portugal 1.

    Only France (15 wins, altough 2 of the winners were not really ethnic french, Gao Xingjian is chinese and Henri Bergson was polish-jew ), USA (12), UK (11), Germany (9) and Sweden (8) have more wins than Spain. India has only 1 win despite the huge population and of all arabic countries only Egypt won 1 time, so your argument that Iberian literature is irrelevant and more mediocre than those countries is objectively a lie. It is infact the contrary, ranks high up among the most prized literatures of the World.

    Likewise, spanish language ranks 4th in terms of total prizes (11).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._in_Literature

    Napoléon is absolutely not presented as "the greatest", he is a controversional figure who is disliked and even loathed by a lage part of French from the far-left to the far-right. He is considered as great, yes, because he objectively was, but not as "the greatest". But he was greater than any Iberian who ever existed, that's true.
    First, he was ethnically Italian and aspired to become a Caesar...Italic/Roman tradition.

    Second, if your measure of greatness is being a tyrant leading invading armies of rapist psychopats who killed mostly civilians and above all a loser then we agree. He was a triple loser: in the Peninsular war, in Russia and Waterloo. Tamerlan and Ghengis Khan also led armies of rapist genocidal savages but at least they were highly victorious conquerors.

    Third, it is widely recognized that he was a great strategist and his genius certainly increased immensely the intrinsical mediocre combat value of the french soldiers, it is not an irrelevant detail that after Napoleon no longer coalitions were required to defeat France and their military record has been pitiful ever since.

    Almost no French believe that France has won because of the French Resistance. French are not like the Iberians, who are delusional and have been brainwashed since childhood to believe that they could have won the Peninsular War without the help of the Brits or if most of Europe had not coalised against France, despite their troops were so mediocre than they bite the dust countless times against the French, despite their were more numerous than the French and fought on their own ground.
    Already posted the stats of the Peninsular War on other threads but you continue spamming your autistic lies.

    At the peak of the war the French armies almost doubled in numbers the iberian coalitions who had a significant part of their military resources (more naval based than land based anyway) in their colonies. In total, a staggering number 600.000 french soldiers (and their many foreign legionaire minions) fought in the IP, which was totally impossible to match as a regular army for any other nation of that time (not even Russia could match those numbers).

    When the Spaniards started using guerrilla tactics the death ratio was 6 to 1 in favor of Spain. 25.000 guerrilleros killed vs 150.000 french killed, which was impossible for Napoleon to continue with this bloodbath, his troops were being decimated. The British help was not relevant for that disclosure, they were not the ones fighting in guerillas and creating huge attrition among the french armies, the brits mostly helped to defeat the french quicker by the end of the war and breaking some naval blockades.

    France lost and lost badly to inferior armies and starved patriotic civilians, deal with it.

    But of course it must be hard for you to understand, it is not part of the french idyosincrasy to fight until death for the motherland, no significant resistance was given during the German occupation like there was in the Balkans, Greece, Poland or Russia where the people were truly heroic and patriotic at the expense of huge human sacrifices. On the contrary, the french became infamously known for being by far the most docile towards their german conquerors who even sent regularly their soldiers to Paris for a touristic military leave, to allow them a bit of fun going to cabarets, brothels and fucking the women of their submissive vassals, before sending them back to the brutal eastern front where the resistance was fierce they would most likely die.


    "It turns out German soldiers even had tourist maps, leaflets and guides to help them locate reliable places of entertainment under German supervision, specifying which cafés, cinemas and brothels could be visited where they would not be exposed to the disruptive effect of contact with the local population."





    " Above is a scan from a German guide. The top of the page says “Important for Soldiers” and lists locations in Paris for various categories from administrative offices to leisure addresses. There were a few things that caught my eye.

    Under “Gaststatten fur Reichsdeutsche”, restaurants for the German Reich, the iconic brasserie La Coupole is listed.

    “Soldatenkinos”, literally, soldier cinemas, includes the Marignan and Rex cinemas, still two of the most popular venues to watch a film in the city today.

    “Besichtigungsgruppen”: Sightseeing groups

    “Frontbuchhandlungen”: bookstores

    “Soldatenkaufhaus”: roughly translates to a soldier’s general store. I checked the location on Google streetview, it’s now a Monoprix supermarket.

    “Atelier für Künstier”: Atelier/ workshop for artists, which sites the location as 14 Rue de la Grande-Chaumičre, a prestigious art school in the 6th arrondissement that still stands today with its original facade. "




    "This is a list of Paris brothels– “bordelle”, under German control, listing their addresses in the left column and in the right column, under “Zustandige Saniestellen”, encouraging the practice of safe sex, is a list of health clinics.

    German soldiers enjoying a French cabaret performance"






    In short, Paris was basically the amusement park & brothel for German troops during the occupation.

    Also 200.000 "french" babies were born of romantic liasons between french women and german soldiers, this was unheard in any other occupied nation and became known as the "collaboration horizontale".

    It is admited that most of the french men who enlisted in the Resistance by the end of the war - 80% of the french "resistants" enlisted only when the allies were already in France - did it not for patriotic fervor to fight the invader but primarly to punish and publicly shame the many french women who cuck'd them on such large scale.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_collaboration
    "Horizontal collaboration (French: Collaboration horizontale, collaboration féminine or collaboration sentimentale) referred to the romantic or sexual relationship many women in France really or allegedly had with members of the German occupation forces after the Fall of France in 1940. The existence of these liaisons had been a major reason for young men to join the French Resistance.[1] After the Liberation of France from German occupation, such women were often punished for collaboration with the German occupiers.

    After the war, throughout France, women accused of collaboration had their heads shaved.[2] These women were referred to as "femme tondue" (shaven women)- and were easily identifiable. [3]

    In many of the 20,000 cases, the women in question had performed only professional services for the occupying Germans, rather than being engaged in sexual relationships with them.[4] Due to the head-shaving in public spaces being used to punish women thought to be collaborators, and the presence of many foreign photographers in post-war France, thousands of photos exist of women being subjected to this punishment.[5]

    "Collaboration horizontale" is believed to have produced 200,000 French babies with German fathers.[6] Since 2009 Germany has offered these children of "the other bank of the Rhine" citizenship, after French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner lobbied for their recognition.[7]."

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...cond-world-war

    "
    The American historian Forrest Pogue wrote of the victims that "their look, in the hands of their tormentors, was that of a hunted animal". Colonel Harry D McHugh, the commander of an American infantry regiment near Argentan, reported: "The French were rounding up collaborators, cutting their hair off and burning it in huge piles, which one could smell miles away. Also, women collaborators were forced to run the gauntlet and were really beaten."

    Elsewhere some men who had volunteered to work in German factories had their heads shaved, but that was an exception. Women almost always were the first targets, because they offered the easiest and most vulnerable scapegoats, particularly for those men who had joined the resistance at the last moment. Altogether, at least 20,000 women are known to have had their heads shaved. But the true figure may well be higher, considering that some estimates put the number of French children fathered by members of the Wehrmacht as high as 80,000.*

    In Paris there were cases of prostitutes kicked to death for having accepted German soldiers as clients. And at the other end of the social scale, several women from the highest reaches of the aristocracy were sheared for consorting with German officers."





    French woman "tondue" in 1944 after giving birth to a baby of a german soldier




    At least those 200.000 babies were born overwhelmingly of romantic relationships, french women knew their men were submissive weaklings who did not even put on a fight or active resistance so naturally they cucked them with the more virile conquerors...more or less the same is happenning now, France is by far the most invaded country by third worlders in Europe and the majority still think that Marine Le Pen or even Eric Zemmour are dangerous extremists. No wonder that a few years ago a poll revealed that 40% of the young (aged under 35) FN voters are of partial or full south european descent, despite everything ethnic french greatly under vote for nationalist parties. Cuck mentality and submission before the invaders is deeprooted.

    It was not at all similar to what the French did to get back on Germany after WWI when they sent their colonial negro troops to occupy the Rhineland and mass rape german women.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Horror_on_the_Rhine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_Bastard



    Hooliganism is more a British thing than a French thing. Yes. And that's not a very good point for the Brits. However, when they have been routed by the Germans in 1940 and had to flee to their rainy island while the French were covering their ass it was another story.[/QUO
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    Great ! That's why some years after the brits repayed them the favor by bombing the shit out of Normandy and Bretagne, where many cities were destroyed almost 100% by the "allied/RAF strategic bombings" killing tens of thousands of french civilians, a far higher number than the civilian victims during the entire german occupation. Your ancestors chose the anglo-zionists as friends and "liberators" so now Enjoy multiculturalism and population replacement, morons !
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