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    Quote Originally Posted by ManVsBear View Post
    most european-americans aren't mixed to any large degree with french like you though, right?
    Right.
    French are mainly in Louisiana and Maine.

    Most Americans are a mix of English, Irish, German. You’ll have Italian up in the northeast and you’ll have Scandinavian roots in some parts of Midwest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManVsBear View Post
    most european-americans aren't mixed to any large degree with french like you though, right?
    Why do you think no? Most do not mix with French because there are few in the USA

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    My sister is close to 97% "British & Irish". Is she a Celtic mutt? We tend to be a mix of several nationalities, but there's uniformity as far as race. Maybe most Americans are mutts like Labradoodles are mutts.

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    I suppose I’m a Euro mutt. My ethnic combination is fairly sorta typical for my area. Less so if I was in much of the south or some areas west.
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    I consider myself a mutt, but I also realize that there are vast swaths of the nation that aren't really. I don't really consider Old Stock Americans to be mutts. They are, as you say, far and away mostly British. And colonial-era Americans are almost their own ethnicity at this point anyway. I would only use the term to refer to people with large amounts of non-British, post-colonial immigrant stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    I've always heard that americans of european ancestry are mutts at this point, of no predominant ancestry beyond europe as a whole. But is this really true? My own family tree on both sides is about 90% British or Irish, it's a little harder to break down the exact ratio of irish/scottish/english/welsh etc. because of how far back they came over although I figure it's about 60-70% English. All of my ancestors were living in the United States by the time Civil War broke out, and of those more than 90% were in Virginia by 1780, and they just stayed there. The remaining 10% is german and dutch, there might also be some others way back. Would you consider that a mutt mix? How common is it? I haven't found a good study on this so far.

    in 1713
    in red the british/great britain/UK empire
    in blue the french
    in orange the spanish
    it's mean than almost an half of the americano-europeans citizens of the USA are more or less of french origin mixed with the WASP,certainly more than the dutch,german,scandinavian stock etc...
    and you couldn't avoid this



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_France

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    Depends, if you're a mixed-race person you're most definitely a mutt. If you're mixed ethnicity like French-German or me then no, hardly so. There has been inner-European migration since forever. There are lots of Austrians who are much swarthier than I, it is impossible that they are "purely Germanic". I live my life as an Austrian woman, so far nobody has said anything yet. However, the orientation point is the European map, not non-Europeans like Morocco etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrenchguy View Post

    in 1713
    in red the british/great britain/UK empire
    in blue the french
    in orange the spanish
    it's mean than almost an half of the americano-europeans citizens of the USA are more or less of french origin mixed with the WASP,certainly more than the dutch,german,scandinavian stock etc...
    and you couldn't avoid this



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_France

    French possessions in the Americas (1534-1803)
    The French owned that entire plot of land but only controlled the area of Louisiana. The rest was territory to the Natives until Thomas Jefferson bought it from Napoleon Bonaparte which was known as the Louisiana Purchase. It was the Anglos/Germans who colonized that entire area outside of Louisiana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Right.
    French are mainly in Louisiana and Maine.

    Midwest.
    What aboot Missouri and other regions of historical "upper Louisiana"? St Louis was named after some frog king called Louis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    What aboot Missouri and other regions of historical "upper Louisiana"? St Louis was named after some frog king called Louis
    Yes that is true but the French did a terrible job of controlling their land. They quickly became the minority once the Purchase was bought and either fled back to Louisiana/Nova Scotia or assimilated. I think the main reason why Louisiana stayed majority French was because nobody wanted to make use of the swamp lands haha.
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