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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I took rothaer to be referring to even Americans with <1% admixtures. While such small amounts are common enough here, they are not in Europe. And if a German or any other European prefers to avoid tainting his bloodline, I fully respect that. I am not going to act like many of TA's Latin Americans and demand that the rest of the world accept my parameters for whiteness.
    His position is unreasonable, unless he also advises not mixing with Southern Europeans, Russians, Finns etc. Even some NW Europeans from urban areas have minor non-white these days, and minor Jew of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    A bit disturbing. Doesn’t surprise me too much, though.
    IDK if they still cheat, but definitely the Finnish results are wrong. Obviously 23andme's algorithms suck. Bad algorithms are not surprising and figures more the recent situation in population genetics. The results are based on a few basic rules and the historical reality is still too complex. Researchers have not yet found how to figure the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    I kind of suspected that they cheated. One thing I've thought is that they might be using family trees to try and "predict" in some cases where they don't have a good enough sample. After all, not every sample can be "good" right?
    Some ethnicities are "easy" and someones are not. 23andme, among a few others, try to be very scientific (forgetting cheating), but actually they are not deep enough in this science to be able to mirror the reality. If they would have stayed with basics using allele distributions and genetic drift, but playing with autosomal haplotypes was not a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    My sister is close to 97% "British & Irish". Is she a Celtic mutt? We tend to be a mix of several nationalities, but there's uniformity as far as race. Maybe most Americans are mutts like Labradoodles are mutts.
    Yeah, but you people tend to have more Italian and Eastern European (Polish chief among this) thrown in, specially when compared to the other countries of the Five Eyes system (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK itself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I always wondered if these companies did this. Shipping addresses and names are big clues. I thought about faking them with the one I did, but it seemed like too much trouble. As for Ancestry, I don't think they (necessarily) cheat. They were so far off with my mom, and I even had in-depth trees connected to my account. If they were cheating, they could have gotten a lot closer to the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    His position is unreasonable, unless he also advises not mixing with Southern Europeans, Russians, Finns etc. Even some NW Europeans from urban areas have minor non-white these days, and minor Jew of course.
    I wonder about that. Considering how badly they pick out some ethnicities, I wouldn't be surprised if every single "jewish" result was off. I know that FTDna assigns it to almost half of all its "white" test takers, european and americans both.

    If you guys want to see some really bad estimates, check out this post of mine on Anthrogenica! https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post787884

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I took rothaer to be referring to even Americans with <1% admixtures. While such small amounts are common enough here, they are not in Europe. And if a German or any other European prefers to avoid tainting his bloodline, I fully respect that. I am not going to act like many of TA's Latin Americans and demand that the rest of the world accept my parameters for whiteness.
    Those amounts are common in Southern Europe too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    If you guys want to see some really bad estimates, check out this post of mine on Anthrogenica! https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post787884
    What are yours and your parents K13 scores and estimated ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I always wondered if these companies did this. Shipping addresses and names are big clues. I thought about faking them with the one I did, but it seemed like too much trouble. As for Ancestry, I don't think they (necessarily) cheat. They were so far off with my mom, and I even had in-depth trees connected to my account. If they were cheating, they could have gotten a lot closer to the truth.
    They definitely do. The commercial companies tell you what you want to hear. For instance, my name is Irish but of Norman or cambro-norman ancestry. I am about half Celtic but there is no one Celtic cluster e.g. Gaelic and Welsh are different. Anyway, based on my name AncestryDNA and LivingDNA they said I was half 'Irish'
    but G25 calls it England_IA which nowadays would be more Welsh or native Brittonic. Also, MyDNAPortal recognizes that Celtic part as Welsh too etc...

    There was poster here called NeonKnight or BritishKnight who told me , before genetic testing, that I look Brittonic and Xenophobic Prussian said I look Welsh/Cornish/Devonshire British etc...in other words I don't look particularly 'Irish' either.

    Basically, it is bad for capitalism to tell most people the truth as it might shatter their delusional preconceptions about themselves.

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    If they are a mixture of disparate ethnicities, say Italian and Irish then sure, but a mix of NW European ethnicities (in the case of many White Americans) that are already somewhat related anyway is not really a mutt to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Right.
    French are mainly in Louisiana and Maine.

    Most Americans are a mix of English, Irish, German. You’ll have Italian up in the northeast and you’ll have Scandinavian roots in some parts of Midwest.
    Are you from Louisiana? I think you mentioned you are of Cajun descent once. Forgive me if I am mistaking you for someone else.

    Random question, but how common is it in Louisiana for people to have ancestry from the Isleños?

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