Was Srebrenica a Genocide or a War attrocity?

[Varda]

Sure, there might have been Serbian settlers in Bosnia just as there were Bosnian Muslim settlers in Serbia. But if you're claiming that Bosnian Serbs all trace their ancestry to Serbia then you're nothing short of retarded. If anything many trace their origins to Herzegovina and not Serbia.

The most likely reason, though, for the large number of Orthodox Christians in Bosnia is because the Ottomans favored Orthodoxy (in the form of a millet) over Catholicism. You can tippy-toe all you want with fringe theories, but the fact still stands that Catholics and Orthodoxes (no matter the proportions) predate Muslims in Bosnia. Both of their presence (as Serbs and Croats) also being recorded in medieval sources.

Vast majority of Bosnian Serbs don't have have deeper origin from present day Serbia, but from Herzegovina, western Montenegro and part of them are native.

Ancestors of Bosnian Serbs who originated outside of Bosnia (from Herzegovina and western Montenegro mostly) settled long time ago, mostly in 16th century and in smaller degree in 15th and 17th century. Bosnian Serbs whose ancestors arrived to Bosnia in 19th doesn't exist, unlike them ancestors of part of Bosniaks came from Serbia and Montenegro in 19th century.

Among Bosnian and Krajina Serbs exist descendants of Herzegovinian (Zachumlian and Travunian) medieval clans (it's genetically proven) like: Maleševci, Predojevići, Banjani, Drobnjaci, Nikšići, Kriči, Burmazi, Ugarci-Dubravčići, Mirilovići, Krasojevići etc.
First mention of these clans in Ragusan sources are: Maleševci 1374, Predojevići 1372, Banjani 1319, Drobnjaci 1285, Nikšići 1399, Kriči 1260, Burmazi 1305, Ugarci-Dubravčići early 15th century, Mirilovići 1366, Krasojevići 1379.

[SouthDutch7991]

And you still have the audacity to play victims. You're nothing but medieval migrants who overstayed your welcome, and we got to see what happens when we let so many of you into our country. Let it be a lesson to the rest of Europe.

Everything from Hungary to Bosporus rightfully belongs to Europeans, not some ottoman horde. Did you ever crack open a history book even once?

[SneedsFeedNSeed]

What are you talking about? 1820?

That are some work paper about Macedonia, Edirne, Bulgaria... are you crazy?

We are talking about Bosnia&Herzegovina, and in that area Serbs were the most numerous nation in all modern censuses:



And it was during the Comminist Tito rule that percentage of Serbs in Bosnia is started to declining, while your are growing, as same as Albanians in Kosovo.

Commie Yugoslavia was paradise for rat breeding Muslims.

Yes, the author terms them as "misfortunes" and "political pressures for muslims"(because during the two Serbian uprisings, the Serbs tried something like scorched earth tactics, which resulted in the famine in Krajina he is writing about). It denotes things like Jakov Nenadovic's attacks in April 1807 into Zvornik, torching Janja and attacks on Bijeljina, and the "Inquisition of the Turkicized" in Sandzak, the massacre in Sjenica, Karadjordje's threats to the Bosnian leadership, the Smedervo Serb propaganda attempts to convince the Bosnian Orthodox population to join the Serbs, the battles along the Bosnian-Serbian border in 1812, Stojan Novakovic's, Njegos' chest-thumping bullshit etc. that scared people into going for Anatolia or segregating into the cities.
Bihac, Krupa, Cazin, Velika Kladusa, Buzim, Ostrozac are in Bosnia, in case you didn't know.
Then later during WW2 people fled after the massacres in Tuholj, Koraj, Cajnice, Ljubinj, Veliki Dubovik etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetni...n_World_War_II

And that's how you get the plastic "eternal" Serb majority.

Keep tracing back and you'll find you came from either Ante's or Đorđe's ballsack.

You mean the Vlachs with the highest frequency of Slavic Y-Dna among all Serbs? Or did you consider that many Serbs in Serbia proper trace their paternal line to Bosnia and Montenegro, not the way around?

Ah, is that why they didn't call themselves Serbs until like 1700, is that why Stefan Dusan separated them from Serbs in his edicts, and why the Ottomans made special laws for them and not the Serbs in the 1500's?

[SneedsFeedNSeed]

Everything from Hungary to Bosporus rightfully belongs to Europeans, not some ottoman horde. Did you ever crack open a history book even once?

You know what? I agree.
I think you should repeat that, so that this Scythian below can hear it.

Keep tracing back and you'll find you came from either Ante's or Đorđe's ballsack.

How about I trace my Mehmed nutsack over your wife, how about that?

Spoiler!

(malo pretjerano, ali je vjerovatno zabavno gledaocima haha)

[Dušan]

Yes, the author terms them as "misfortunes" and "political pressures for muslims"(because during the two Serbian uprisings, the Serbs tried something like scorched earth tactics, which resulted in the famine in Krajina he is writing about). It denotes things like Jakov Nenadovic's attacks in April 1807 into Zvornik, torching Janja and attacks on Bijeljina, and the "Inquisition of the Turkicized" in Sandzak, the massacre in Sjenica, Karadjordje's threats to the Bosnian leadership, the Smedervo Serb propaganda attempts to convince the Bosnian Orthodox population to join the Serbs, the battles along the Bosnian-Serbian border in 1812, Stojan Novakovic's, Njegos' chest-thumping bullshit etc. that scared people into going for Anatolia or segregating into the cities.
Bihac, Krupa, Cazin, Velika Kladusa, Buzim, Ostrozac are in Bosnia, in case you didn't know.
Then later during WW2 people fled after the massacres in Tuholj, Koraj, Cajnice, Ljubinj, Veliki Dubovik etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetni...n_World_War_II

And that's how you get the plastic "eternal" Serb majority.

Uprisings in Serbia only enlarged Muslim population in Bosnia, since lot of Muslims of Serbia moved to Bosnia, settlinf in ten of settlements in Podrinje, Posavina, Pounje, like Orahova, Kostajnica, Šamac, Orašje, Janja, Kozluk etc.

Without uprising in Serbia => less Muslims in Bosnia => even higher percentage of Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina than it was (43-44%)
Without moving of Serbs to Habsburg Military Frontier (in todays Croatia) => even higher percentage of Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina

Are you realy dare to mentioned WW2?

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bos...rule#ref223950




Role of Bosnian Muslims in WW2:

[Varda]

Uprisings in Serbia only enlarged Muslim population in Bosnia, since lot of Muslims of Serbia moved to Bosnia, settlinf in ten of settlements in Podrinje, Posavina, Pounje, like Orahova, Kostajnica, Šamac, Orašje, Janja, Kozluk etc.

Without uprising in Serbia => less Muslims in Bosnia => even higher percentage of Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina than it was (43-44%)
Without moving of Serbs to Habsburg Military Frontier (in todays Croatia) => even higher percentage of Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina

Are you realy dare to mentioned WW2?

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bos...rule#ref223950




Role of Bosnian Muslims in WW2:

Guy in the middle in first row look Turanid as fuck.

[jfgh676]

When i read how serbs use sneaky raccoon-like behaviour to establish their state,i now have a deeper understanding for why they get along so much with other rat-like countries like israel.

[Varda]

Average Muslim who "died" in Srebrenica is born in Sarajevo and currently live in Germany.

[Dušan]

When i read how serbs use sneaky raccoon-like behaviour to establish their state,i now have a deeper understanding for why they get along so much with other rat-like countries like israel.

Nobody here care about Israel and Palestine, neither about any Muslims over the world. But only about our own yard.
What is your problem, sand dune goatfucker? Stay away in your Arab shithole.

[FinalFlash]

I cannot imagine Serbs to be a genocidal people. Sorry if I offend anybody here but I just don't see it. If anything, I think Srebrenica was a retaliation for the Serbian murders that took place.