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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Gisele Bundchen is mixed with Slavic and perhaps Italian, the region is influenced by Spanish Gauchos. So she's Latino.
    Brazil does not have a homogeneous Latino...
    I am not arguing that she is not Latina. She is in fact Latina like Candice Swanepoel is African, Rashford is English and Ousmane Dembele is French and btw according to the registers Gisele is fully German, but even if she was just half, that wasn't my point.

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    I always considered Candice a South African, she is just white like 12/15% of South Africans when she was born. But its true South Africa has a huge percentage, more than 50% of native south african people. When we cant say they same for most of South America, 88% of the brazilian blood is composed by a mixture of portugueses, africans, italians, spaniards and other peoples that are not real native to the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    I am not arguing that she is not Latina. She is in fact Latina like Candice Swanepoel is African, Rashford is English and Ousmane Dembele is French and btw according to the registers Gisele is fully German, but even if she was just half, that wasn't my point.
    Gizele is Gaúcha:





    If you want ethnic German go to the coast of the state of Santa Catarina

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Gizele is Gaúcha:

    If you want ethnic German go to the coast of the state of Santa Catarina
    According to her family tree she is totally German, in the sense that all her ancestors came from Germany (to illustrate it better to you)... and actually you will find more German descendants - whether partial or fully - in Rio Grande do Sul than in Santa Catarina.

    But that wasn't the context of my post (I agree that Gisele is Latin American and German-Brazilians are actually Latin Americans too), so you keep not getting the general point and now you are spreading fake affirmations. Nothing more common to your historic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    According to her family tree she is totally German, in the sense that all her ancestors came from Germany (to illustrate it better to you)... and actually you will find more German descendants - whether partial or fully - in Rio Grande do Sul than in Santa Catarina.
    Father's name "Valdir" and mother's name "Vania" both names are of Slavic origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Father's name "Valdir" and mother's name "Vania" both names are of Slavic origin
    The big majority of Valdir's and Vania's in Brazil have nothing of Slavic. It is just a common Brazilian first name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    The big majority of Valdir's and Vania's in Brazil have nothing of Slavic. It is just a common Brazilian first name.
    Valdir, Valmir, Valdenir, Ivan, Estefano, Estacho, etc... names are of Slavic origin won't find people with those names in Santa Catarina-State

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Valdir, Valmir, Valdenir, Ivan, Estefano, Estacho, etc... names are of Slavic origin won't find people with those names in Santa Catarina-State
    You can find more of them in Santa Catarina than in Rio Grande do Sul and you know what it means? Nothing. Btw, I don't understand your logic that a fully German born in Brazil isn't Latino while a German-Polish yes is Latino, it makes no sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Valdir, Valmir, Valdenir, Ivan, Estefano, Estacho, etc... names are of Slavic origin won't find people with those names in Santa Catarina-State
    Cara, isso ai que você está falando não tem o menor sentido, eu por exemplo tenho um nome germânico mas isso não significa que eu tenho ascendência germânica, por exemplo já vi vários baianos chamado Ivan, Valdir, Valdenir etc, isso significa que eles tem ascendência eslava? Como o outro rapaz falou, esses nomes são comuns no Brasil não importa a origem da pessoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutankhamun View Post
    Cara, isso ai que você está falando não tem o menor sentido, eu por exemplo tenho um nome germânico mas isso não significa que eu tenho ascendência germânica, por exemplo já vi vários baianos chamado Ivan, Valdir, Valdenir etc, isso significa que eles tem ascendência eslava? Como o outro rapaz falou, esses nomes são comuns no Brasil não importa a origem da pessoa.
    There are but not the most common, an ethnic German named "Ivan" lol...

    esses nomes são comuns no Brasil não importa a origem da pessoa.
    Importa sim, eu moro em uma região de maioria eslava

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