UK and Ireland among five nations most likely to survive a collapse of global civilisation

[Ayetooey]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-and-ir...gests-12366136

"The UK and Ireland are among five nations most likely to survive a collapse of global civilisation, researchers have said.

A study has suggested a combination of ecological destruction, limited resources and population growth could trigger a worldwide breakdown "within few decades", with climate change making things worse.

A "very likely" collapse would be characterised by the disintegration of supply chains, international agreements and global financial structures, according to researchers at the Global Sustainability Institute at Anglia Ruskin University.

They said problems could spread quickly because of how connected and economically dependant countries are on one another.

Five countries were identified as best placed to maintain civilisation within their own borders, with New Zealand topping the list and followed by Iceland, the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australia.

All of them are islands or island continents which have fewer extremes in temperatures and varied amounts of rainfall due to their proximity to oceans.

Researchers said this makes them most likely to have relatively stable conditions in the future, despite the effects of climate change - which is expected to hit subtropics and tropics the hardest.

New Zealand's ability to produce geothermal and hydroelectric energy, its abundant agricultural land and its low population would allow it to survive relatively unscathed.

Although the UK has generally fertile soils and varied agricultural output, it does not have as much agricultural land available because of its population density, raising questions about future self-sufficiency.

Britain's reliance on fossil fuels and nuclear energy was considered to be a risk as power sources could be "rendered at least partly inoperable" if global supply chains collapse.

Researchers said this could be mitigated by the nation's manufacturing capabilities.

Meeting the large population's energy demands through renewables alone would require very extensive infrastructure, they said, but the UK could increase its resilience by harnessing more energy from wind and water bodies like lagoons or barrages in the Severn Estuary.

Professor Aled Jones, director of the Global Sustainability Institute at Anglia Ruskin University, said "significant changes are possible in the coming years and decades".

He said: "The impact of climate change, including increased frequency and intensity of drought and flooding, extreme temperatures, and greater population movement, could dictate the severity of these changes."

Researchers identified pandemics as another risk to societal stability, citing the United Nations' warning that future pandemics could be even more severe than COVID-19.

Twenty countries were analysed in the report."

[Creoda]

This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear’d by their breed and famous by their birth,
Renowned for their deeds as far from home,
For Christian service and true chivalry,
As is the sepulchre in stubborn Jewry,
Of the world’s ransom, blessed Mary’s Son,
This land of such dear souls, this dear dear land,
Dear for her reputation through the world,
Is now leased out, I die pronouncing it,
Like to a tenement or pelting farm:
England, bound in with the triumphant sea
Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
That England, that was wont to conquer others,
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.
Ah, would the scandal vanish with my life,
How happy then were my ensuing death!

[Diego Garcia]

Anglia Ruskin University.

[Tooting Carmen]

As even the report itself infers, our population density could prove problematic though.

[Ayetooey]

As even the report itself infers, our population density could prove problematic though.

I don't believe the alarmist global warming bs anyway saying society will collapse if we don't give up all of our freedoms ASAP, but there is plenty of fertile land in Britain.

[Ayetooey]

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-sp...e-this-year-3/

"1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”"

[Daco Celtic]

"All of them are islands or island continents which have fewer extremes in temperatures and varied amounts of rainfall due to their proximity to oceans. Researchers said this makes them most likely to have relatively stable conditions in the future, despite the effects of climate change - which is expected to hit subtropics and tropics the hardest."

Ireland is the one place that could use some global warming in the summer.

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't believe the alarmist global warming bs anyway saying society will collapse if we don't give up all of our freedoms ASAP, but there is plenty of fertile land in Britain.

Yes and no. The most sparsely-populated parts of the country, such as Mid Wales and the Scottish Highlands, are as such because they are very mountainous and difficult to either farm or settle. There is, however, scope for more arable farming in East Anglia and SW England for sure.

[RenaRyuguu]

This was very interesting to read.

[Gredos]

wait to see if they survive this winter, then we talk about surviving in collapse of civilisation