Which country is overall more statist and collectivist: France or Germany?

[Tooting Carmen]

Clearly France. But "mutti" Merkel's Germany is trying hard to catch us up unfortunately.

Are you referring to social or economic issues? Because if the latter, I thought Merkel was trying to liberalise the Germany economy?

I'm talking about post-1989 comparison, of course. Before that it's more complex and Germany could have been considered as more statist and collectivist than France.

What do you mean?

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Samnium]

France, France is the most collectivist state in all Western Europe (including Germany), it's not even close for the others countries.

Unfortunately I have to say because too much power given to the state ends up with a tyranny like the one we are living right now.

[Tooting Carmen]

France, France is the most collectivist state in all Western Europe (including Germany), it's not even close for the others countries.

Unfortunately I have to say because too much power given to the state ends up with a tyranny like the one we are living right now.

Do you consider yourself to be a mainstream conservative or a libertarian?

[Tooting Carmen]

Given Stearsolina's France vs Germany thread, I thought I would bump this.