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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    I am pretty moderate Leftist, since I believe in state regulated Capitalism, not in full-on Socialist economy, however I do adhere to Socialist causes of aiding economically less fortunate people by the state. On Social issues I am pretty much Liberal as it gets, since I am believe in basic human rights for anybody, no matter ethnic, religious or racial origin or sexual orientation, and in individual freedom from state interference and surveillance. Since you often flirt with Nazi symbolism by default disqualifies you from Liberalism, since if you would have basic understanding of Nazi society, you would know how much they hated Liberal concepts of freedom of expression, of liberal arts and most importantly how many atrocities they committed against fellow humans. No cultured or civilized person would ever lower themselves to flirt with Nazi stuff, but you are so childish that you believe you are being some rebellious reactionary for using them. Such attitude is simply pathetic in a grown-up person. Plus you are one of the most anti-Roma persons on this forum, numerous times you generalized how they don't fit in Hungary and something is inherently wrong with them. No Liberal I ever known has spoken so negatively about Romas, but you know who constantly do? Nationalists and Fascists, they do it all the time, showing no empathy or understanding for how disenfranchised they always were in Hungarian history. Even in a recent test about Fascism you got more than 40% or something, so give me a break and stop being so disingenuous.
    You are lying as always, i got 34% on fascism test:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7257732
    You got 18% what is of course cannot be true, because you have always talked about the strong state power over peoples to teach them to "good" things. It was the main reason of our disagreement because i always represented the weak state with minimal power and you criticized it as well.
    Secondly youre not liberal or simple leftist but you have very radical views for example political correctness, white guilt, white privileges, BLM and other far left ideas. You support the prev. leftist hungarian regime who crippled civilians, who did show trials, who shooted into the peoples, who commited crimes agianst right wing politicians, sorry but i can't take your "liberalism" seriously, you have just post-communist mentality.
    Iam not anti gypsie, i always defended such gypsies who have normal life, i just criticized gypsies in general, because there are tons of problem with them, you simple deny it. Liberalism doesn't mean that you don't talk about social or ethnic problems, this is just your radical leftist PC shit. Talking about the gypsie problem is not fascism or nazism, but every people (leftist too) see the problems with them. Just a question: would you send your kid in a gypsie school? Of course no you fucking hypocrite.
    About nazi avatars i explained it many times but you cant understand, maybe because youre a 50 years old boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    You are lying as always, i got 34% on fascism test:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7257732
    You got 18% what is of course cannot be true, because you have always talked about the strong state power over peoples to teach them to "good" things. It was the main reason of our disagreement because i always represented the weak state with minimal power and you criticized it as well.
    Secondly youre not liberal or simple leftist but you have very radical views for example political correctness, white guilt, white privileges, BLM and other far left ideas. You support the prev. leftist hungarian regime who crippled civilians, who did show trials, who shooted into the peoples, who commited crimes agianst right wing politicians, sorry but i can't take your "liberalism" seriously, you have just post-communist mentality.
    Iam not anti gypsie, i always defended such gypsies who have normal life, i just criticized gypsies in general, because there are tons of problem with them, you simple deny it. Liberalism doesn't mean that you don't talk about social or ethnic problems, this is just your radical leftist PC shit. Talking about the gypsie problem is not fascism or nazism, but every people (leftist too) see the problems with them. Just a question: would you send your kid in a gypsie school? Of course no you fucking hypocrite.
    About nazi avatars i explained it many times but you cant understand, maybe because youre a 50 years old boomer.
    The role of the state is to be there for people in need not to surveil them, I always adhered to this idea. We need strong state involvement in economy, because it remains the only democratically elected institution to have any legal power to take on the fight with large corporations that pretty much rule the world for decades. Otherwise the state has no reason to get involved in people's individual lives. I don't subscribe to Marxist Leninist ideas of a vanguard deciding on behalf of the majority of people, but I strongly believe in liberal democracy as the best political system. In 2006 and in its aftermath I was for a long time very strongly opposed to Gyurcsány and his clique of gangsters but lately I realized that Orbán and his league of gangsters is a much bigger threat to Hungarian democracy and prosperity than the United Opposition of which unfortunately Gyurcsány's party also is a member of. At least the United Opposition is not fully corrupted and have plenty politicians who have nothing to do with Gyurcsány, thus I find this side a much smaller evil than Orbán, among whom I absolutely don't find even one honest, righteous politicians who is committed to act for the common good. I am very unsatisfied that I have to make such a major compromise, but for the future of Hungary we must get rid of Orbán in 2022!

    When you criticize Romas you are basically blaming an entire ethnic group for the negative deeds of a few individuals. Only Fascists use such tactic to generalize entire groups of people on the behavior of a few individuals, this attitude of yours is completely against any Liberal principles which looks at people as individuals and not as representatives of groups. When somebody commits a crime they hold the responsibility and not the group they are part of. Your type of thinking is very archaic and goes against the philosophical progress post-Enlightenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
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    Láttad a Partizán új interjúját Slomóval? A kurucinfót megszégyenítő antiszemitizmus tombol a komment szekcióban a balosok részéről:



    Prideon is dumáltam egy zsidó csajjal, ő hagyományosan egy szivárványos dávid csillagos pólóba szokott kimenni, 10 éve még attól félt hogy az akkori Jobbikosok verik meg érte, ma már fel se merte venni és a balos felvonulók miatt. Csak hogy kicsit képbe legyél a szélsőballal akire rá fogsz szavazni jövőre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Láttad a Partizán új interjúját Slomóval? A kurucinfót megszégyenítő antiszemitizmus tombol a komment szekcióban a balosok részéről:



    Prideon is dumáltam egy zsidó csajjal, ő hagyományosan egy szivárványos dávid csillagos pólóba szokott kimenni, 10 éve még attól félt hogy az akkori Jobbikosok verik meg érte, ma már fel se merte venni és a balos felvonulók miatt. Csak hogy kicsit képbe legyél a szélsőballal akire rá fogsz szavazni jövőre.
    Aki antiszemita az nem lehet baloldali. Személyesen nem ismerem el az ilyen gyűlölködő egyének baloldaliságát, hiszen a baloldali ember nem alacsonyodik le etnikai megvetésben. Ezért nem is hiszem, hogy túl sokan lennénk valódi baloldaliak Magyarországon. Magyarországon más értenek gyakran baloldalban, mint nemzetközileg és én többségében a nemzetközi baloldallal azonosulok, miközben megőrzöm a magyar és európai specifikusságom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Aki antiszemita az nem lehet baloldali. Személyesen nem ismerem el az ilyen gyűlölködő egyének baloldaliságát, hiszen a baloldali ember nem alacsonyodik le etnikai megvetésben. Ezért nem is hiszem, hogy túl sokan lennénk valódi baloldaliak Magyarországon. Magyarországon más értenek gyakran baloldalban, mint nemzetközileg és én többségében a nemzetközi baloldallal azonosulok, miközben megőrzöm a magyar és európai specifikusságom.
    Hogyne lehetne? A szovjetek a komplett zsidóságot deportálták kelet ázsiába vagy a gulágra, nem mellesleg a gazdag zsidók vagyonát elkobozták a kommunista rendszerek, kb ugyanaz ment mint Hitlernél. Amúgy ja nézegess korábbi Partizán videókat mint pl ezt:



    Ajánlom a háttérből megszemlélni a csodás szovjet plakátokat főleg a vörös zászlót amit a csaj tart és amit úgy vágtak be hogy épphogy lecsippentették a sarló kalapácsot De ha meg ezek nem balosok, akkor kicsodák? ) Azt akarod mondani Gulyás Marxi nem balos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Hogyne lehetne? A szovjetek a komplett zsidóságot deportálták kelet ázsiába vagy a gulágra, nem mellesleg a gazdag zsidók vagyonát elkobozták a kommunista rendszerek, kb ugyanaz ment mint Hitlernél. Amúgy ja nézegess korábbi Partizán videókat mint pl ezt:



    Ajánlom a háttérből megszemlélni a csodás szovjet plakátokat főleg a vörös zászlót amit a csaj tart és amit úgy vágtak be hogy épphogy lecsippentették a sarló kalapácsot De ha meg ezek nem balosok, akkor kicsodák? ) Azt akarod mondani Gulyás Marxi nem balos?
    A Partizánt nagyon is szeretem, hiszen baloldali létükre még így is magasabb újságírói tevékenységet folytatnak a magyarországi nyilvánosságban, mint a legtöbb sajtóorgánum. Máskülönben semmi közük nincs a múlt és jelen kommunista rendszerek propagálásában, hanem tisztességes demokratikus szocialista eszméket vallanak, amik alapjában összeférhetetlenek bármilyen zsarnoksággal és elnyomással.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    A Partizánt nagyon is szeretem, hiszen baloldali létükre még így is magasabb újságírói tevékenységet folytatnak a magyarországi nyilvánosságban, mint a legtöbb sajtóorgánum. Máskülönben semmi közük nincs a múlt és jelen kommunista rendszerek propagálásában, hanem tisztességes demokratikus szocialista eszméket vallanak, amik alapjában összeférhetetlenek bármilyen zsarnoksággal és elnyomással.
    Aham ha ez így van akkor miért vannak szovjet plakátok és vörös zászlók a háttérben? Miért van tele a komment szekció dugig komcsikkal?

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