They updated my Advanced Ancestry Analysis at YourDNAPortal

[JamesBond007]

Eurasia I did not do Pangea .Only the modern updated. It seems to me this more cutting edge than G25 , hence, 'better' :

Second Oracle :




Third Oracle Run :

Fourth Oracle Run :

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 2 parts, with each fragment representing half of your genome. This setting is very useful for both highly mixed and more homogenous ethnicities. This approach gives a very reliable, albeit generalised, interpretation of one's ethnicity.

Populations
Groningen
Groningen : 50%
Groningen is the capital city and main municipality of Groningen province in the Netherlands. It is the largest city in the north of the Netherlands. As of December 2020, it had 233,218 inhabitants. It has a land area of 168.93 km2 (65.22 sq mi), and a total area, including water, of 180.21 km2 (69.58 sq mi). Its population density is 1,367 residents per km2 (3,540 per square mile). On 1 January 2019, it was merged with the municipalities of Ten Boer and Haren. The Groningen-Assen metropolitan area has about half a million inhabitants. Groningen is a university city, and students comprise an estimated 25% of its total population. Groningen was established more than 950 years ago. Historically, it was a semi-independent city-state, a member of the Hanseatic League, and the dominant regional power in the north of the Netherlands.

Wales
Wales : 50%
Wales (Welsh: Cymru [ˈkəm.rɨ] KUM-ree) is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It is bordered by England to the east, the Irish Sea to the north and west, and the Bristol Channel to the south.

[oszkar07]

Glad you enjoyed it.
I cant blieve I bothered paying that much for both West Eurasia and Pangea ...ridiculously expensive for what they give.
In fact mine just looks like a dressed up version of my K13.
The computation was so quick that Im sure they use a calculator that is probably on the level of some type of gedmatch or vahuedo K13 . They just make it look more fancy with the graphs and wikipedia region articles .
nice job ydna P , you swindled me outta $ on your waaay overpriced Advanced Ancestry (fancied up K13) this time, but never again.

[Grace O'Malley]

They are all just calculators so how are they cutting edge? They are never going to be accurate. For instance even if you are 100% of an ethnicity calculators will also give you some ethnicity which you don't have ancestry from. At least it does show that I have Irish. I've come to the conclusion that these results can show if you have a southern, northern or eastern pull relative to your ethnicity. You don't take them literally.

It does appear to be like Eurogenes K13 as oszkar7 mentioned above.






Pangea Modern First Run



Ireland : 43.75%
Ireland (/ˈaɪərlənd/ ; Irish: Éire [ˈeːɾʲə] ; Ulster-Scots: Airlann [ˈɑːrlən]) is an island in the North Atlantic. It is separated from Great Britain to its east by the North Channel, the Irish Sea, and St George's Channel. Ireland is the second-largest island of the British Isles, the third-largest in Europe, and the twentieth-largest on Earth.

England
England : 25%
England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It shares land borders with Wales to its west and Scotland to its north. The Irish Sea lies northwest of England and the Celtic Sea to the southwest. England is separated from continental Europe by the North Sea to the east and the English Channel to the south. The country covers five-eighths of the island of Great Britain, which lies in the North Atlantic, and includes over 100 smaller islands, such as the Isles of Scilly and the Isle of Wight.

Schleswig-Holstein
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%
Schleswig-Holstein (German: [ˈʃleːsvɪç ˈhɔlʃtaɪn]) is the northernmost of the 16 states of Germany, comprising most of the historical duchy of Holstein and the southern part of the former Duchy of Schleswig. Its capital city is Kiel; other notable cities are Lübeck and Flensburg.

Sweden
Sweden : 12.5%
Sweden (/ˈswiː.dən/; Swedish: Sverige [ˈsvæ̌rjɛ] (listen)), officially the Kingdom of Sweden (Swedish: Konungariket Sverige [ˈkôːnɵŋaˌriːkɛt ˈsvæ̌rjɛ] ), is a Nordic country in Northern Europe. It borders Norway to the west and north, Finland to the east, and is connected to Denmark in the southwest by a bridge-tunnel across the Öresund Strait. At 450,295 square kilometres (173,860 sq mi), Sweden is the largest country in Northern Europe, the third-largest country in the European Union, and the fifth largest country in Europe.

Orkney
Orkney : 6.25%
Orkney (/ˈɔːrkni/; Scots: Orkney; Old Norse: Orkneyjar; Norn: Orknøjar), also known as the Orkney Islands, is an archipelago in the Northern Isles of Scotland, situated off the north coast of the island of Great Britain. Orkney is 10 miles (16 km) north of the coast of Caithness and has about 70 islands, of which 20 are inhabited. The largest island, Mainland, is often referred to as "the Mainland", and has an area of 523 square kilometres (202 sq mi), making it the sixth-largest Scottish island and the tenth-largest island in the British Isles.

Third Oracle Run

Ireland : 50%
North_Sea : 25%
England : 12.5%
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%

Fourth Run



So these results need to be taken with a pinch of salt. Of course my ancestry is all Northwestern Europe so when you look at it like that it's not too bad.

[oszkar07]

They are all just calculators so how are they cutting edge? They are never going to be accurate. For instance even if you are 100% of an ethnicity calculators will also give you some ethnicity which you don't have ancestry from. At least it does show that I have Irish. I've come to the conclusion that these results can show if you have a southern, northern or eastern pull relative to your ethnicity. You don't take them literally.

It does appear to be like Eurogenes K13 as oszkar7 mentioned above.






Pangea Modern First Run



Ireland : 43.75%
Ireland (/ˈaɪərlənd/ ; Irish: Éire [ˈeːɾʲə] ; Ulster-Scots: Airlann [ˈɑːrlən]) is an island in the North Atlantic. It is separated from Great Britain to its east by the North Channel, the Irish Sea, and St George's Channel. Ireland is the second-largest island of the British Isles, the third-largest in Europe, and the twentieth-largest on Earth.

England
England : 25%
England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It shares land borders with Wales to its west and Scotland to its north. The Irish Sea lies northwest of England and the Celtic Sea to the southwest. England is separated from continental Europe by the North Sea to the east and the English Channel to the south. The country covers five-eighths of the island of Great Britain, which lies in the North Atlantic, and includes over 100 smaller islands, such as the Isles of Scilly and the Isle of Wight.

Schleswig-Holstein
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%
Schleswig-Holstein (German: [ˈʃleːsvɪç ˈhɔlʃtaɪn]) is the northernmost of the 16 states of Germany, comprising most of the historical duchy of Holstein and the southern part of the former Duchy of Schleswig. Its capital city is Kiel; other notable cities are Lübeck and Flensburg.

Sweden
Sweden : 12.5%
Sweden (/ˈswiː.dən/; Swedish: Sverige [ˈsvæ̌rjɛ] (listen)), officially the Kingdom of Sweden (Swedish: Konungariket Sverige [ˈkôːnɵŋaˌriːkɛt ˈsvæ̌rjɛ] ), is a Nordic country in Northern Europe. It borders Norway to the west and north, Finland to the east, and is connected to Denmark in the southwest by a bridge-tunnel across the Öresund Strait. At 450,295 square kilometres (173,860 sq mi), Sweden is the largest country in Northern Europe, the third-largest country in the European Union, and the fifth largest country in Europe.

Orkney
Orkney : 6.25%
Orkney (/ˈɔːrkni/; Scots: Orkney; Old Norse: Orkneyjar; Norn: Orknøjar), also known as the Orkney Islands, is an archipelago in the Northern Isles of Scotland, situated off the north coast of the island of Great Britain. Orkney is 10 miles (16 km) north of the coast of Caithness and has about 70 islands, of which 20 are inhabited. The largest island, Mainland, is often referred to as "the Mainland", and has an area of 523 square kilometres (202 sq mi), making it the sixth-largest Scottish island and the tenth-largest island in the British Isles.

Third Oracle Run

Ireland : 50%
North_Sea : 25%
England : 12.5%
Schleswig-Holstein : 12.5%

Fourth Run



So these results need to be taken with a pinch of salt. Of course my ancestry is all Northwestern Europe so when you look at it like that it's not too bad.

I worked out its a similiar calc/programme to K13 because I recognised the very specific pops I get in K13 oracles eg one example smaller amounts of middle east pops that almost no other calc assigns me but K13 as it models that from Red Sea score. Also the runs on this are like Vahuedo K13 or G25 like when you start with no ADC you get more populations then as you go 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2 ,eventually you end up with 2 populations , so this seems like a similiar programme. I think just with more or different samples. Otherwise not much different.
Mine computed so quickly that its obviously a Gedmatch or Vahuedo type calc they use , nice how they charge near $ 35 AUD for it.

[JamesBond007]

I worked out its a similiar calc/programme to K13 because I recognised the very specific pops I get in K13 oracles eg one example smaller amounts of middle east pops that almost no other calc assigns me but K13 as it models that from Red Sea score. Also the runs on this are like Vahuedo K13 or G25 like when you start with no ADC you get more populations then as you go 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2 ,eventually you end up with 2 populations , so this seems like a similiar programme. I think just with more or different samples. Otherwise not much different.
Mine computed so quickly that its obviously a Gedmatch or Vahuedo type calc they use , nice how they charge near $ 35 AUD for it.

Sorry, neither K13 not Vahaduo alone can give me the same results it's like a hybrid calculator with some custom exclusive samples.


So you worked out a similar calculator ? That is about $35 dollars worth of your time perhaps.

That it probably uses G25 as part of the hybrid calculator is not bad it actually gives me insight into the results.

[Grace O'Malley]

Sorry, neither K13 not Vahaduo alone can give me the same results it's like a hybrid calculator with some custom exclusive samples.


So you worked out a similar calculator ? That is about $35 dollars worth of your time perhaps.

That it probably uses G25 as part of the hybrid calculator is not bad it actually gives me insight into the results.

My Eurasia is very similar to Gedmatch Eurogenes K13.

Eurasia first run



Eurogenes K13

[JamesBond007]

My Eurasia is very similar to Gedmatch Eurogenes K13.

Not mine, everybody keeps talking about how great K13 is for them but my K13 results are trash :

population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.862381
2 Orcadian @ 4.424407
3 West_Scottish @ 4.838403
4 Southwest_English @ 5.407835
5 North_Dutch @ 5.467000
6 Danish @ 6.244602
7 Southeast_English @ 6.306530
8 Norwegian @ 7.105875
9 North_German @ 7.160923
10 Swedish @ 9.322725
11 South_Dutch @ 9.624322
12 West_German @ 10.870525
13 French @ 15.669524
14 North_Swedish @ 16.110004
15 Austrian @ 16.458277
16 East_German @ 16.737020
17 Hungarian @ 21.762369
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.417994
19 Southwest_French @ 23.986454
20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 24.658991

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 3.862381


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% South_Dutch @ 3.707607


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.707607
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_German @ 3.747404
3 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.782264
4 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.825925
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.862381
6 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.872767
7 Irish + Irish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.873713
8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.887663
9 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.930623
10 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.935894
11 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.947983
12 Irish + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.959944
13 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 3.964985
14 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.973071
15 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.990455
16 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.990937
17 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 4.002400
18 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 4.007975
19 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.020545
20 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.023259

[Grace O'Malley]

Not mine, everybody keeps talking about how great K13 is for them but my K13 results are trash :

population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.862381
2 Orcadian @ 4.424407
3 West_Scottish @ 4.838403
4 Southwest_English @ 5.407835
5 North_Dutch @ 5.467000
6 Danish @ 6.244602
7 Southeast_English @ 6.306530
8 Norwegian @ 7.105875
9 North_German @ 7.160923
10 Swedish @ 9.322725
11 South_Dutch @ 9.624322
12 West_German @ 10.870525
13 French @ 15.669524
14 North_Swedish @ 16.110004
15 Austrian @ 16.458277
16 East_German @ 16.737020
17 Hungarian @ 21.762369
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.417994
19 Southwest_French @ 23.986454
20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 24.658991

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 3.862381


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% South_Dutch @ 3.707607


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.707607
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_German @ 3.747404
3 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.782264
4 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.825925
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.862381
6 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.872767
7 Irish + Irish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.873713
8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.887663
9 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.930623
10 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.935894
11 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.947983
12 Irish + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.959944
13 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 3.964985
14 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.973071
15 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.990455
16 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.990937
17 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 4.002400
18 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 4.007975
19 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.020545
20 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.023259

But that's not because it isn't good but just because of your peculiar aversion to your Irish ancestry. Aren't you Isles plus Alsatian? So your results are a pretty good approximation. These calculators will substitute similar populations and if you see enough of them you can get an understanding of how they work.

[JamesBond007]

But that's not because it isn't good but just because of your peculiar aversion to your Irish ancestry. Aren't you Isles plus Alsatian? So your results are a pretty good approximation. These calculators will substitute similar populations and if you see enough of them you can get an understanding of how they work.

I guess if modern Irish is significantly 'Scottish' or Celto-Germanic than the original Irish inhabitants. I mean results such as these could be legit :

9 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.930623
10 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.935894

19 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.020545
20 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.023259

However, that they are listed at 19 or 20 or 9 and 10 rather than at 1 or 2 or 3 makes K13 trash.

[Grace O'Malley]

I guess if modern Irish is significantly 'Scottish' or Celto-Germanic than the original Irish inhabitants. I mean results such as these could be legit :

19 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.020545
20 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.023259

However, that they are listed at 19 or 20 rather than at 1 or 2 or 3 makes K13 trash.

I'm sure you know that the Irish are primarily a Bronze Age population as are most people from the Isles. Even the Anglo-Saxons are similar to Insular Celts. You know this so yes Irish and Scots are similar but so are all Northwest European populations. Where did you think the "original" Irish came from or any population that inhabited those islands?