What does “being native to the land” mean?

[SouthDutch7991]

What about İstanbul? Locals of the city is pretty diverse, genetically speaking.

What is wrong with you people?

[reboun]

What is wrong with you people?

Nothing wrong, why?

[mentalanesthesia]

What is wrong with you people?

[Voskos]

A person is native if their ancestors have been living there for at least 2 generations. A civilization is native if they've been there for 2 millenia (at least) imo.

[SouthDutch7991]

You referenced Istanbul in a thread about native populations. Regardless of any argument over the legitimacy of it, you can't seriously believe that it's relevant. Constantinople was a hub of migration long before even you guys got there, it would be like talking about "New York City natives".

[reboun]

You referenced Istanbul in a thread about native populations. Regardless of any argument over the legitimacy of it, you can't seriously believe that it's relevant. Constantinople was a hub of migration long before even you guys got there, it would be like talking about "New York City natives".

Maybe the term’s subjectiveness arise from the fact that some countries, regions, cities are pretty diverse.

[SouthDutch7991]

Maybe the term’s subjectiveness arise from the fact that some countries, regions, cities are pretty diverse.

Whatever meaning you want to say it has, it most definitely could NOT mean someone who occupied an already existing civilisation with thousands of years of history, the roman empire no less. It's such a ridiculous premise that I don't believe you really believe it yourself. Talking about natives is done when dealing with much more vague things like europe as a whole or specific populations like say the english. Constantinople was the center of the world for 1000 years before a single turkish person ever stepped foot in it, that is NOT a valid candidate for native status in question. It would be like asking if the U.S. army were german natives in a hypothetical future where they held berlin permanently.

[reboun]

Whatever meaning you want to say it has, it most definitely could NOT mean someone who occupied an already existing civilisation with thousands of years of history, the roman empire no less. It's such a ridiculous premise that I don't believe you really believe it yourself. Talking about natives is done when dealing with much more vague things like europe as a whole or specific populations like say the english. Constantinople was the center of the world for 1000 years before a single turkish person ever stepped foot in it, that is NOT a valid candidate for native status in question. It would be like asking if the U.S. army were german natives in a hypothetical future where they held berlin permanently.

Then what about İzmir? İzmir is also genetically very diverse.

[Mortimer]

The general consensus of the society you live in determines whether you are native or not. Another opinion could be who was first there, or who created the society etc. But generally you can be adopted into the tribe and be native if it is the consensus of the society. Also the society can exclude you if they want, and someone can always write a theory to justify it. You are native to Turkey in my opinion because turks see you that way.

[reboun]

The general consensus of the society you live in determines whether you are native or not. Another opinion could be who was first there, or who created the society etc. But generally you can be adopted into the tribe and be native if it is the consensus of the society. Also the society can exclude you if they want, and someone can always write a theory to justify it. You are native to Turkey in my opinion because turks see you that way.

In real life, I have never asked any of my acquaintances whether they see me as a native of Turkey or not. However, I met a few people that they do not see me as another Turkish person but they still respected that I see myself as Turkish.