Is there really such thing as a "league" when it comes to finding love?

[Richmondbread]

People will often say "she's way out of your league". Is this even a thing? Sounds like an invention from Boomers and their mentality, but also a very worldly and secular mindset. I don't believe there is any such thing as being out of someone's league. It's all perception. It's not a reality, though.

[SouthDutch7991]

I think it's less of a strict limitation and more that there's a likelihood for you to end up with someone more similar to you on an economic, intellectual, and social level. And obviously people can be ugly or stunning, but the vast majority of men and women are pretty average and other factors will determine whether or not you are compatible. Either way, having a very low confidence or low opinion of yourself isn't healthy.

[sean]

Is there really such thing as a "league" when it comes to finding love? People will often say "she's way out of your league". Is this even a thing? Sounds like an invention from Boomers and their mentality, but also a very worldly and secular mindset. I don't believe there is any such thing as being out of someone's league. It's all perception. It's not a reality, though.

I think maybe you're overthinking the question. Usually when someone talks about someone being "out of their league", they're talking about looks.

Initially, league was meant to be used as a short way of saying, "Are you currently with someone who is so great that you really didn't expecting finding someone so great for you?". But today I would hope that most of us know that looks are a major part of the equation in a relationship.

All dating apps for instance are controlled by women, period. They decide who they date and fuck. Women are more picky than men, and if you're attractive, everything with women ''works''. If you're unattractive, nothing ''works'' lel.

Spoiler!

[SouthDutch7991]

I think maybe you're overthinking the question. Usually when someone talks about someone being "out of their league", they're talking about looks.

Initially, league was meant to be used as a short way of saying, "Are you currently with someone who is so great that you really didn't expecting finding someone so great for you?". But today I would hope that most of us know that looks are a major part of the equation in a relationship.

All dating apps for instance are controlled by women, period. They decide who they date and fuck. Women are more picky than men, and if you're attractive, everything with women ''works''. If you're unattractive, nothing ''works'' lel.

Spoiler!

Just don't use dating apps unless you're pathetically desperate.

[de Burgh II]

I think maybe you're overthinking the question. Usually when someone talks about someone being "out of their league", they're talking about looks.

Initially, league was meant to be used as a short way of saying, "Are you currently with someone who is so great that you really didn't expecting finding someone so great for you?". But today I would hope that most of us know that looks are a major part of the equation in a relationship.

All dating apps for instance are controlled by women, period. They decide who they date and fuck. Women are more picky than men, and if you're attractive, everything with women ''works''. If you're unattractive, nothing ''works'' lel.

Spoiler!

These women wonder why they are infertile, crazy cat-moms with "fur-babies." I can't blame men because they are honestly not attractive in any sense of the word.

Dating apps are not worth it with the bottom of the barrel scum that exists in these platforms.

[Richmondbread]

I think maybe you're overthinking the question. Usually when someone talks about someone being "out of their league", they're talking about looks.

Initially, league was meant to be used as a short way of saying, "Are you currently with someone who is so great that you really didn't expecting finding someone so great for you?". But today I would hope that most of us know that looks are a major part of the equation in a relationship.

All dating apps for instance are controlled by women, period. They decide who they date and fuck. Women are more picky than men, and if you're attractive, everything with women ''works''. If you're unattractive, nothing ''works'' lel.

Spoiler!

Looks are incredibly subjective. I don't think many women are that much out of my league unless they are super models. And most of those women look mannish anyway.

BTW, I'm getting tons of matches on UR my Type. So it's not bad. Mostly attractive young women.

[JamesBond007]

I think maybe you're overthinking the question. Usually when someone talks about someone being "out of their league", they're talking about looks.

Initially, league was meant to be used as a short way of saying, "Are you currently with someone who is so great that you really didn't expecting finding someone so great for you?". But today I would hope that most of us know that looks are a major part of the equation in a relationship.

Overthinking ? You ain't seen nothing , yet !

All women are ugly and no I'm not gay nor am I a virgin :

It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful. Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...-h/11945-h.htm

All dating apps for instance are controlled by women, period. They decide who they date and fuck. Women are more picky than men, and if you're attractive, everything with women ''works''. If you're unattractive, nothing ''works'' lel.

Spoiler!

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... In general, we may say the following:—That the age they[women] prefer is from thirty to thirty-five. For instance, they prefer men of this age to youths, who in reality possess the highest form of human beauty. The reason for this is that they are not guided by taste but by instinct, which recognises in this particular age the acme of generative power. In general, women pay little attention to beauty, that is, to beauty of face; they seem to take it upon themselves alone to endow the child with beauty. It is chiefly the strength of a man and the courage that goes with it that attract them, for both of these promise the generation of robust children and at the same time a brave protector for them. Every physical defect in a man, any deviation from the type, a woman may, with regard to the child, eradicate if she is faultless in these parts herself or excels in a contrary direction. The only exceptions are those qualities which are peculiar to the man, and which, in consequence, a mother cannot bestow on her child; these include the masculine build of the skeleton, breadth of shoulder, small hips, straight legs, strength of muscle, courage, beard, and so on. And so it happens that a woman frequently loves an ugly man, albeit she never loves an unmanly man, because she cannot neutralise his defects.

The second class of considerations that are the source of love are those depending on the psychical qualities. Here we shall find that a woman universally is attracted by the qualities of a man's heart or character, both of which are inherited from the father. It is mainly firmness of will, determination and courage, and may be honesty and goodness of heart too, that win a woman over; while intellectual qualifications exercise no direct or instinctive power over her, for the simple reason that these are not inherited from the father. A lack of intelligence carries no weight with her; in fact, a superabundance of mental power or even genius, as abnormities, might have an unfavourable effect. And so we frequently find a woman preferring a stupid, ugly, and ill-mannered man to one who is well-educated, intellectual, and agreeable. Hence, people of extremely different temperament frequently marry for love—that is to say, he is coarse, strong, and narrow-minded, while she is very sensitive, refined, cultured, and aesthetic, and so on; or he is genial and clever, and she is a goose. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...link2H_4_0013s

^ RichmondBread's major malfunction is that he is not manly and he is obese or not in shape genius. I mean no kind of shape at all not necessarily elite shape or fantastic shape but just not in shape AT ALL and that is not manly.

[Richmondbread]

Overthinking ? You ain't seen nothing , yet !

All women are ugly and no I'm not gay nor am I a virgin :

It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful. Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...-h/11945-h.htm

... In general, we may say the following:—That the age they[women] prefer is from thirty to thirty-five. For instance, they prefer men of this age to youths, who in reality possess the highest form of human beauty. The reason for this is that they are not guided by taste but by instinct, which recognises in this particular age the acme of generative power. In general, women pay little attention to beauty, that is, to beauty of face; they seem to take it upon themselves alone to endow the child with beauty. It is chiefly the strength of a man and the courage that goes with it that attract them, for both of these promise the generation of robust children and at the same time a brave protector for them. Every physical defect in a man, any deviation from the type, a woman may, with regard to the child, eradicate if she is faultless in these parts herself or excels in a contrary direction. The only exceptions are those qualities which are peculiar to the man, and which, in consequence, a mother cannot bestow on her child; these include the masculine build of the skeleton, breadth of shoulder, small hips, straight legs, strength of muscle, courage, beard, and so on. And so it happens that a woman frequently loves an ugly man, albeit she never loves an unmanly man, because she cannot neutralise his defects.

The second class of considerations that are the source of love are those depending on the psychical qualities. Here we shall find that a woman universally is attracted by the qualities of a man's heart or character, both of which are inherited from the father. It is mainly firmness of will, determination and courage, and may be honesty and goodness of heart too, that win a woman over; while intellectual qualifications exercise no direct or instinctive power over her, for the simple reason that these are not inherited from the father. A lack of intelligence carries no weight with her; in fact, a superabundance of mental power or even genius, as abnormities, might have an unfavourable effect. And so we frequently find a woman preferring a stupid, ugly, and ill-mannered man to one who is well-educated, intellectual, and agreeable. Hence, people of extremely different temperament frequently marry for love—that is to say, he is coarse, strong, and narrow-minded, while she is very sensitive, refined, cultured, and aesthetic, and so on; or he is genial and clever, and she is a goose. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...link2H_4_0013s

^ RichmondBread's major malfunction is that he is not manly and he is obese or not in shape genius. I mean no kind of shape at all not necessarily elite shape or fantastic shape but just not in shape AT ALL and that is not manly.

I am not obese. I have lost weight.

[Richmondbread]

That's what you think. You wouldn't be a 42 year old virgin if you had easy access to sex.

When a woman sees a guy she really likes, she WILL show it. If women are not staring and smiling at you, it's not because they are too shy or modest -- it's because they don't find you attractive.

But most virgins refuse to acknowledge this. They find this truth too painful to accept. They prefer to wallow in denial, thinking it's their "game" or "confidence" that needs to be stepped up. In reality, they're just not physically attractive enough for women to notice them.



Maybe, but they treat sex like a currency to be traded and exchanged.

This is not true because

1.Women who show too much interest are labeled as sluts or loose women. It is not socially acceptable (especially here in the Southern USA)
2.I have not put sincere effort into finding romance/sex/women , in fact very little. Had I applied myself years ago I probably would have.
3. I am not sub human or super unattractive. I have lost weight but it will take time to get into the shape I desire
4. I have poor social skills and you can be ugly and have great social skills, and you do see ugly men with beautiful women and they aren't necessarily rich or successful either.

[Richmondbread]

Overthinking ? You ain't seen nothing , yet !

All women are ugly and no I'm not gay nor am I a virgin :

It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful. Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...-h/11945-h.htm

... In general, we may say the following:—That the age they[women] prefer is from thirty to thirty-five. For instance, they prefer men of this age to youths, who in reality possess the highest form of human beauty. The reason for this is that they are not guided by taste but by instinct, which recognises in this particular age the acme of generative power. In general, women pay little attention to beauty, that is, to beauty of face; they seem to take it upon themselves alone to endow the child with beauty. It is chiefly the strength of a man and the courage that goes with it that attract them, for both of these promise the generation of robust children and at the same time a brave protector for them. Every physical defect in a man, any deviation from the type, a woman may, with regard to the child, eradicate if she is faultless in these parts herself or excels in a contrary direction. The only exceptions are those qualities which are peculiar to the man, and which, in consequence, a mother cannot bestow on her child; these include the masculine build of the skeleton, breadth of shoulder, small hips, straight legs, strength of muscle, courage, beard, and so on. And so it happens that a woman frequently loves an ugly man, albeit she never loves an unmanly man, because she cannot neutralise his defects.

The second class of considerations that are the source of love are those depending on the psychical qualities. Here we shall find that a woman universally is attracted by the qualities of a man's heart or character, both of which are inherited from the father. It is mainly firmness of will, determination and courage, and may be honesty and goodness of heart too, that win a woman over; while intellectual qualifications exercise no direct or instinctive power over her, for the simple reason that these are not inherited from the father. A lack of intelligence carries no weight with her; in fact, a superabundance of mental power or even genius, as abnormities, might have an unfavourable effect. And so we frequently find a woman preferring a stupid, ugly, and ill-mannered man to one who is well-educated, intellectual, and agreeable. Hence, people of extremely different temperament frequently marry for love—that is to say, he is coarse, strong, and narrow-minded, while she is very sensitive, refined, cultured, and aesthetic, and so on; or he is genial and clever, and she is a goose. --Arthur Schopenhauer

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1194...link2H_4_0013s

^ RichmondBread's major malfunction is that he is not manly and he is obese or not in shape genius. I mean no kind of shape at all not necessarily elite shape or fantastic shape but just not in shape AT ALL and that is not manly.

I don't look bad for my age.