Was Australia originally found by Portugal?

[Hasien]

I thought I read some where that It was the Portuguese who "discovered" Australia first.

[Crn Volk]

I thought I read some where that It was the Portuguese who "discovered" Australia first.

Officially it was the Dutch, however it seems likely that the Portugese did about 80 years before the Dutch

[Creoda]

The Portuguese may have been the first Europeans to find what is Australia, but they never documented or claimed it, so it's kind of irrelevant.

The Dutch first named it (as New Holland) and mapped most of the coast in the 1600s. The oldest 'building' is a Dutch stone fort in Western Australia, built by the Batavia shipwreck survivors.

[Cristiano viejo]

The Portuguese may have been the first Europeans to find what is Australia, but they never documented or claimed it, so it's kind of irrelevant.

Same than Vikings for America, even if indeed Portuguese did document their discover (and so Spaniards also did).

Even the name, Australia, was put by Spaniards: Austrialia del Espíritu Santo, a name that quotes the House of Austrias (the Hapsburgs) and a religious belief.

[Creoda]

Same than Vikings for America, even if indeed Portuguese did document their discover (and so Spaniards also did).

Even the name, Australia, was put by Spaniards: Austrialia del Espíritu Santo, a name that quotes the House of Austrias (the Hapsburgs) and a religious belief.

Wrong on all counts. There's no record of Portuguese discovery of Australia, otherwise there'd be no question about it. By contrast, the Vikings recorded a settlement at Vinland in the sagas, and a corresponding Norse settlement in Newfoundland has been confirmed by archaeology.

The name Australia derives from the Latin Terra Australis, a hypothetical name going back to the 15th century, and was applied to the continent by the British, after colonisation.

[Cristiano viejo]

Wrong on all counts. There's no record of Portuguese discovery of Australia, otherwise there'd be no question about it. By contrast, the Vikings recorded a settlement at Vinland in the sagas, and a corresponding Norse settlement in Newfoundland has been confirmed by archaeology.

The name Australia derives from the Latin Terra Australis, a hypothetical name going back to the 15th century, and was applied to the continent by the British, after colonisation.

Wrong on all counts. Vikings documented nothing, otherwise there'd be no question about it and history would not have waited for the 60s to find out that the Vikings came to Vinland.

Sorry for you but Portuguese did document their discover. The Dieppe maps are based on Portuguese sources and sea charts, which were lost, probably in the Lisbon earthquake. That is why the Dieppe maps contain lot of Portuguese, and even Galician, placenames.

I could not care less from where the name Australia derives, if from Latin or Martian. The current name comes from what I have explained above. Even the first note in English language of the world Australia corroborates it:

The earliest recorded use of the word Australia in English was in 1625 in "A note of Australia del Espíritu Santo, written by Sir Richard Hakluyt", published by Samuel Purchas in Hakluytus Posthumus, a variation of the original Spanish name "Austrialia del Espiritu Santo" (Southern-Austrian Land of the Holy Spirit) coined by navigator Pedro Fernandes de Queirós in 1606 for the largest island of Vanuatu, believing his expedition had reached Terra Australis. This is a rare combination of terms "Austral" and "Austria", the latter in honour of the Habsburg dynasty that ruled Spain at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Australia

You mad, criminal descendant?

[Aldaris]

Wrong on all counts. There's no record of Portuguese discovery of Australia, otherwise there'd be no question about it. By contrast, the Vikings recorded a settlement at Vinland in the sagas, and a corresponding Norse settlement in Newfoundland has been confirmed by archaeology.

The name Australia derives from the Latin Terra Australis, a hypothetical name going back to the 15th century, and was applied to the continent by the British, after colonisation.

And since the documentation, the stuff layed in some dusty shelf for hundreds of years without any follow-up by anoyne. That the vikings may have been first Europeans to reach the New World is just a historical trivia and when the Spaniards actually discovered it and then claimed it, they weren't even aware of Leif Eriksson.

[Creoda]

Wrong on all counts. Vikings documented nothing, otherwise there'd be no question about it and history would not have waited for the 60s to find out that the Vikings came to Vinland.

Sorry for you but Portuguese did document their discover. The Dieppe maps are based on Portuguese sources and sea charts, which were lost, probably in the Lisbon earthquake. That is why the Dieppe maps contain lot of Portuguese, and even Galician, placenames.

I could not care less from where the name Australia derives, if from Latin or Martian. The current name comes from what I have explained above. Even the first note in English language of the world Australia corroborates it:

The earliest recorded use of the word Australia in English was in 1625 in "A note of Australia del Espíritu Santo, written by Sir Richard Hakluyt", published by Samuel Purchas in Hakluytus Posthumus, a variation of the original Spanish name "Austrialia del Espiritu Santo" (Southern-Austrian Land of the Holy Spirit) coined by navigator Pedro Fernandes de Queirós in 1606 for the largest island of Vanuatu, believing his expedition had reached Terra Australis. This is a rare combination of terms "Austral" and "Austria", the latter in honour of the Habsburg dynasty that ruled Spain at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Australia

You mad, criminal descendant?

Who are you trying to convince when you write these things? Do you believe everyone is as retarded as you? You even quote the wiki page that dispels your claims.

Australia spelt correctly on a German woodcut, 60 years before the Spanish Austrialia - referring to Vanuatu, which last time I checked is not Australia, but far away in the Pacific

https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-230899009/view

Portuguese earthquake, how convenient

[Damião de Góis]

Portuguese earthquake, how convenient

I have no information to add about the Australia topic and this isn't something that people discuss here (i think conspiracy theories about Columbus being a portuguese secret agent are the only ones remotely popular). But yeah in 1755 Lisbon and nearby areas were wiped out. A lot was lost.

The city was hit by an earthquake, tsunami and fires in that order and the earthquake was so big that a 3 meter tsunami wave hit Cornwall and shockwaves were felt in Finland according to wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

In my personal opinion if the portuguese had discovered Australia this would be known before 1755 because they reached East Timor apparently in 1512. But everything is possible.

[Sebastianus Rex]

The Portuguese may have been the first Europeans to find what is Australia, but they never documented or claimed it, so it's kind of irrelevant.

The Dutch first named it (as New Holland) and mapped most of the coast in the 1600s. The oldest 'building' is a Dutch stone fort in Western Australia, built by the Batavia shipwreck survivors.

The Chinese surely got there first than all Europeans. Bottom line is only the British took interested in colonizing and making something out of that land and that's what counts most.