Neolithic and Bronze Age samples from Croatia

**Varda** · 08-19-2021, 08:35 PM

https://www.nature.com/articles/s415...932-9/tables/1

**Jana** · 08-19-2021, 09:19 PM

Worthless study with brutally wrong conclusions. No comment.

**Varda** · 08-19-2021, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Worthless study with brutally wrong conclusions. No comment.

**Jana** · 08-19-2021, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

Some conclusions are kind of embarrassing to read from professional academics in serious magazine. They are as stupid than they can't see single "Roman" sample that "broadly clusters with present say Croats, Bulgarians, Romanians and Hungarians" (who don't cluster together for a start) and thus "proves genetic continuity in the region since Roman times" isn't genetically related with modern day people in Croatia but shares some broad superficial similarity.

This sample is obviously mix of Scytho-Sarmatian male and native Balkanite-Roman woman, because it has very alien Asian type of R1a nonexistent in modern Croats and common Balkanite mtdna. I suppose it will be genetically Scythian_Moldova like (actual Scythian + Thracian/Balkan) and somewhat resembling modern people in "wider region" without much actual relation to them.

What a bunch of idiots, lmao, I'm an amateur and figured this out in few minutes.

At least hoping to see autosomal data from these in near future.

And for God's sake, enough with these pathetic neolithic samples, we have enough, ofc, they test single "Roman" and zero iron age ones, not to mention not any Slavic sample.

Pissed and tired of such dilettantes.

**Varda** · 08-19-2021, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Some conclusions are kind of embarrassing to read from professional academics in serious magazine. They are as stupid than they can't see single "Roman" sample that "broadly clusters with present say Croats, Bulgarians, Romanians and Hungarians" (who don't cluster together for a start) and thus "proves genetic continuity in the region since Roman times" isn't genetically related with modern day people in Croatia but shares some broad superficial similarity.

This sample is obviously mix of Scytho-Sarmatian male and native Balkanite-Roman woman, because it has very alien Asian type of R1a inexistant in modern Croats and common Balkanite mtdna.
I suppose it will be genetically Scythian_Moldova like (actual Scythian + Thracian/Balkan) and somewhat resembling modern people in "wider region" without much actual relation to them.

What a bunch of idiots, lmao, I'm an amateur and figured this out in few minutes.

At least hoping to see autosomal data from these in near future.

And for God's sake, enough with these pathetic neolithic samples, we have enough, ofc, they test single "Roman" and zero iron age ones, not to mention not any Slavic sample.

Pissed and tired of such dilettantes.

Probably https://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=...postcount=7370

Interesting, there is no E-V13.
Same as in recent study of the samples of Illyrian tribe Daunians from southern Italy https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...1285#msg161285

**andre** · 08-22-2021, 12:52 PM

Code:

Scaled

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ZEM35:ZEM35,0.0093,0.0176,0.0034,-0.0291,0.0203,-0.019,-0.0024,-0.0051,0.0247,0.0447,0.0067,0.0086,-0.0163,-0.0022,-0.0322,-0.0057,0.0027,0.0004,0.0089,-0.0127,-0.0059,0.0024,-0.0029,-0.003,-0.0037
ZEM36:ZEM36,0.01,0.0193,0.0023,-0.0288,0.0202,-0.0159,-0.0003,-0.0003,0.0243,0.0518,0.0101,0.0136,-0.0162,0.0024,-0.0337,-0.0135,0.009,0.0008,0.0086,-0.0083,-0.0154,-0.0025,0.0029,-0.0069,-0.0022
ZEM39:ZEM39,0.0102,0.0148,0.0057,-0.0079,0.0096,-0.0072,0.0003,0.0007,0.0036,0.0212,0.0022,0.006,-0.0091,-0.002,-0.0125,-0.0018,0.0118,-0.0012,0.0008,0,-0.01,0.0055,0.004,0.0034,-0.0052

ZEM23 should be the roman-age sample.

**andre** · 08-22-2021, 12:53 PM

Double

**Jana** · 08-22-2021, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by andre

Code:

Scaled

JAG06:JAG06,0.124067,0.145221,0.061848,0.033592,0.067089,0.006136,0.00705,0.008077,0.024134,0.021139,-0.008282,-0.000599,0.005798,0.022708,-0.010722,0.00305,0.002738,0.007728,0.001885,0.01063,0.007986,0.000495,-0.012695,-0.027715,0.000479
JAG34:JAG34,0.125205,0.144205,0.064111,0.041344,0.059703,0.00753,0.001645,0.006923,0.022089,0.01713,0.000974,-0.002398,0.000595,0.016102,-0.013843,-0.002519,0.007041,0.004434,0.00352,0.002501,0.007986,0.008779,0.00456,-0.024582,-0.008742
JAG58:JAG58,0.119514,0.136081,0.072407,0.040698,0.065243,0.017291,-0.002115,0.013384,0.027406,0.010752,-0.011367,-0.004046,-0.002379,0.013349,-0.007329,0.011933,0.022556,0.003294,0.002137,0.014132,0.012228,-0.000495,-0.001232,-0.02651,-0.004191
JAG78:JAG78,0.127482,0.138112,0.073539,0.045543,0.067397,0.006136,0.001645,0.013384,0.026384,-0.000182,-0.001137,0.000599,0.008474,0.017065,-0.013708,-0.004773,0.015125,-0.004687,0.006788,0.009129,0.0141,-0.007666,-0.002835,-0.034945,-0.008263
JAG82:JAG82,0.125205,0.150298,0.087115,0.047804,0.067089,0.011156,0.001175,0.006923,0.031292,0.002734,-0.000812,-0.007643,0.011447,0.007294,-0.0095,0.012463,0.007432,0.002154,-0.000377,0.008129,0.015223,0.009274,-0.00949,-0.028076,0.00958
JAG85:JAG85,0.126344,0.149283,0.061848,0.032946,0.060319,0.001394,0.005405,0.014999,0.013908,0.014579,0,-0.006744,0.003865,0.006193,-0.019137,-0.01127,0.002477,0.004307,0.005279,-0.000125,0.008485,0.001484,-0.004683,-0.025907,0.008981
JAG93:JAG93,0.12862,0.156392,0.061471,0.02261,0.058472,0.004462,0.009635,0.008538,0.017589,0.014579,0.00406,0.001649,0.004906,0.021332,-0.02253,-0.020949,0.004303,0.000887,0.001257,0.002626,0.007487,0,-0.003081,-0.022895,0.003113
ZEM02:ZEM02,0.118376,0.183811,0.016593,-0.097546,0.057549,-0.049643,-0.009165,0.000923,0.047245,0.093669,0.003573,0.013338,-0.015609,-0.00867,-0.042752,-0.001458,0.033118,0.000127,0.020614,-0.008754,-0.017344,0.005812,-0.001849,0.003012,-0.003353
ZEM04:ZEM04,0.113823,0.183811,0.012445,-0.085595,0.060319,-0.042391,0.001645,-0.007154,0.036405,0.077268,0.009581,0.016186,-0.028097,0.011423,-0.037866,-0.015115,0.01343,0.003674,0.011564,-0.013006,-0.003619,0.001113,-0.003821,0.002651,0.001197
ZEM05:ZEM05,0.1161,0.169593,0.016216,-0.093347,0.061858,-0.042949,0.003525,0.008077,0.044791,0.086198,0.009581,0.019333,-0.020367,0.002064,-0.042888,-0.012331,0.018123,0.003294,0.007919,-0.010255,-0.008235,0.009398,-0.005916,0.004699,-0.004431
ZEM06:ZEM06,0.113823,0.180764,0.010936,-0.079135,0.06832,-0.041555,-0.00094,-0.003461,0.041109,0.080184,0.007145,0.014837,-0.019029,0.00812,-0.038816,-0.020154,-0.000913,0.002914,0.001885,-0.01088,-0.00574,0.009769,-0.006655,-0.006145,0.005029
ZEM07:ZEM07,0.125205,0.180764,0.010936,-0.093347,0.060934,-0.047969,-0.00705,-0.006692,0.043973,0.086198,-0.00065,0.020682,-0.018285,0.010184,-0.043159,-0.006364,0.021513,0.001014,0.009804,-0.016258,-0.008735,-0.000247,-0.001232,-0.003976,0.003832
ZEM08:ZEM08,0.1161,0.180764,0.013576,-0.089794,0.063704,-0.045459,-0.000705,0.005769,0.054608,0.086198,-0.001949,0.013188,-0.024826,-0.004266,-0.040988,-0.006099,0.013299,0,0.00729,-0.007253,-0.009608,0.002844,-0.003081,-0.005663,-0.00012
ZEM09:ZEM09,0.125205,0.171624,0.015839,-0.083657,0.061242,-0.04769,0.002585,-0.000231,0.052154,0.089842,0.013965,0.016785,-0.02438,0.004817,-0.035694,-0.012861,0.018123,0.00038,0.009176,-0.007879,-0.007487,0.001113,-0.012202,-0.007109,0.003473
ZEM11:ZEM11,0.117238,0.188888,0.012822,-0.082042,0.06432,-0.046854,-0.00329,-0.002538,0.0452,0.084375,0.007145,0.016335,-0.029881,-0.003028,-0.031487,-0.019756,0.012778,0.005321,0.012067,-0.014382,-0.013102,-0.002226,-0.001109,-0.006266,-0.001197
ZEM12:ZEM12,0.1161,0.187873,0.000754,-0.095608,0.06432,-0.049364,-0.003995,0.002308,0.050722,0.086744,0.001949,0.005545,-0.027354,0.010459,-0.037459,-0.016176,0.010822,0.002154,0.017849,-0.013757,-0.013726,0.007419,0.003821,-0.007953,0.004431
ZEM13:ZEM13,0.105855,0.186857,0.018479,-0.092055,0.069551,-0.034025,0.001645,0.003461,0.047654,0.082371,0.009906,0.009741,-0.021258,0.003853,-0.035559,-0.025722,-0.000652,0.000127,0.006034,-0.024512,-0.004367,-0.000989,-0.000739,-0.013978,-0.002874
ZEM14:ZEM14,0.1161,0.186857,0.015462,-0.088825,0.053548,-0.047133,-0.009165,-0.007384,0.049904,0.086562,0.010393,0.012439,-0.027205,0.006744,-0.027144,-0.017634,0.003651,0.004814,0.007416,-0.013506,-0.009234,0.009274,-0.0053,-0.001687,-0.005149
ZEM16:ZEM16,0.108132,0.186857,-0.000377,-0.111759,0.06155,-0.051595,-0.00611,-0.003231,0.046222,0.090025,0.004547,0.023979,-0.034043,0.003303,-0.038002,-0.020551,0.025816,-0.000127,0.01169,-0.01088,-0.019715,0.008532,0.001725,0.011086,-0.008981
ZEM19:ZEM19,0.10927,0.178733,0.017348,-0.088179,0.059396,-0.048527,-0.00047,-0.00923,0.047859,0.085286,0.01023,0.014387,-0.028097,-0.006881,-0.032437,-0.013126,0.015907,-0.003674,0.005908,-0.001501,-0.007237,0.006677,-0.001232,-0.010001,-0.003353
ZEM23:ZEM23,0.119514,0.117801,0.032055,0.020026,0.020927,0.008646,-0.003995,0.006461,0.004704,-0.004009,-0.005034,0.008243,-0.000595,-0.001651,0.002307,0.016441,0.01017,-0.003927,0.000377,-0.002876,-0.006489,0.000989,0.00949,0.003012,0.003353
ZEM24:ZEM24,0.112685,0.178733,0.006034,-0.099807,0.067089,-0.043228,-0.001175,-0.000462,0.050517,0.087656,0.01023,0.01109,-0.027948,-0.001514,-0.042616,0.002254,0.038072,-0.002154,0.004148,-0.015257,-0.007487,0.004328,0.001725,-0.001687,-0.002155
ZEM27:ZEM27,0.111547,0.182795,0.003017,-0.10013,0.057241,-0.041555,-0.002585,-0.003692,0.044995,0.090389,0.01153,0.006594,-0.024678,0.004266,-0.029994,-0.029302,-0.001956,-0.001267,0.019483,-0.012381,-0.007237,0.004822,-0.007272,0.002289,-0.006826
ZEM30:ZEM30,0.108132,0.189904,0.005657,-0.101745,0.052933,-0.051037,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.043564,0.083464,0.002923,0.008093,-0.024975,-0.00523,-0.031894,-0.001724,0.0103,0.000507,0.014958,-0.005378,-0.006738,-0.001484,-0.002711,-0.005061,-0.000479
ZEM33:ZEM33,0.114961,0.183811,0.018856,-0.085918,0.058165,-0.035419,-0.0047,-0.003461,0.037019,0.087656,0.001299,0.025028,-0.024975,-0.00055,-0.03393,-0.015248,0.017993,-0.003294,0.002263,-0.01038,-0.013102,0.008779,-0.00986,0.001566,0.002515
ZEM35:ZEM35,0.105855,0.178733,0.012822,-0.093993,0.062473,-0.052989,-0.00564,-0.011769,0.050517,0.08146,0.01088,0.012889,-0.024232,-0.003028,-0.043702,-0.007558,0.00352,0.000507,0.011187,-0.015883,-0.007362,0.002968,-0.003574,-0.003615,-0.004431
ZEM36:ZEM36,0.113823,0.195997,0.008674,-0.093024,0.062165,-0.044344,-0.000705,-0.000692,0.049699,0.094398,0.016401,0.020382,-0.024083,0.003303,-0.045738,-0.0179,0.011735,0.001014,0.01081,-0.01038,-0.019216,-0.003091,0.003574,-0.008314,-0.002634
ZEM39:ZEM39,0.1161,0.150298,0.021496,-0.025517,0.029544,-0.02008,0.000705,0.001615,0.007363,0.038634,0.003573,0.008992,-0.013528,-0.002752,-0.016965,-0.002387,0.015385,-0.00152,0.001006,0,-0.012478,0.006801,0.00493,0.004097,-0.006227

Raw

JAG06:JAG06,0.0109,0.0143,0.0164,0.0104,0.0218,0.0022,0.003,0.0035,0.0118,0.0116,-0.0051,-0.0004,0.0039,0.0165,-0.0079,0.0023,0.0021,0.0061,0.0015,0.0085,0.0064,0.0004,-0.0103,-0.023,0.0004
JAG34:JAG34,0.011,0.0142,0.017,0.0128,0.0194,0.0027,0.0007,0.003,0.0108,0.0094,0.0006,-0.0016,0.0004,0.0117,-0.0102,-0.0019,0.0054,0.0035,0.0028,0.002,0.0064,0.0071,0.0037,-0.0204,-0.0073
JAG58:JAG58,0.0105,0.0134,0.0192,0.0126,0.0212,0.0062,-0.0009,0.0058,0.0134,0.0059,-0.007,-0.0027,-0.0016,0.0097,-0.0054,0.009,0.0173,0.0026,0.0017,0.0113,0.0098,-0.0004,-0.001,-0.022,-0.0035
JAG78:JAG78,0.0112,0.0136,0.0195,0.0141,0.0219,0.0022,0.0007,0.0058,0.0129,-0.0001,-0.0007,0.0004,0.0057,0.0124,-0.0101,-0.0036,0.0116,-0.0037,0.0054,0.0073,0.0113,-0.0062,-0.0023,-0.029,-0.0069
JAG82:JAG82,0.011,0.0148,0.0231,0.0148,0.0218,0.004,0.0005,0.003,0.0153,0.0015,-0.0005,-0.0051,0.0077,0.0053,-0.007,0.0094,0.0057,0.0017,-0.0003,0.0065,0.0122,0.0075,-0.0077,-0.0233,0.008
JAG85:JAG85,0.0111,0.0147,0.0164,0.0102,0.0196,0.0005,0.0023,0.0065,0.0068,0.008,0,-0.0045,0.0026,0.0045,-0.0141,-0.0085,0.0019,0.0034,0.0042,-0.0001,0.0068,0.0012,-0.0038,-0.0215,0.0075
JAG93:JAG93,0.0113,0.0154,0.0163,0.007,0.019,0.0016,0.0041,0.0037,0.0086,0.008,0.0025,0.0011,0.0033,0.0155,-0.0166,-0.0158,0.0033,0.0007,0.001,0.0021,0.006,0,-0.0025,-0.019,0.0026
ZEM02:ZEM02,0.0104,0.0181,0.0044,-0.0302,0.0187,-0.0178,-0.0039,0.0004,0.0231,0.0514,0.0022,0.0089,-0.0105,-0.0063,-0.0315,-0.0011,0.0254,0.0001,0.0164,-0.007,-0.0139,0.0047,-0.0015,0.0025,-0.0028
ZEM04:ZEM04,0.01,0.0181,0.0033,-0.0265,0.0196,-0.0152,0.0007,-0.0031,0.0178,0.0424,0.0059,0.0108,-0.0189,0.0083,-0.0279,-0.0114,0.0103,0.0029,0.0092,-0.0104,-0.0029,0.0009,-0.0031,0.0022,0.001
ZEM05:ZEM05,0.0102,0.0167,0.0043,-0.0289,0.0201,-0.0154,0.0015,0.0035,0.0219,0.0473,0.0059,0.0129,-0.0137,0.0015,-0.0316,-0.0093,0.0139,0.0026,0.0063,-0.0082,-0.0066,0.0076,-0.0048,0.0039,-0.0037
ZEM06:ZEM06,0.01,0.0178,0.0029,-0.0245,0.0222,-0.0149,-0.0004,-0.0015,0.0201,0.044,0.0044,0.0099,-0.0128,0.0059,-0.0286,-0.0152,-0.0007,0.0023,0.0015,-0.0087,-0.0046,0.0079,-0.0054,-0.0051,0.0042
ZEM07:ZEM07,0.011,0.0178,0.0029,-0.0289,0.0198,-0.0172,-0.003,-0.0029,0.0215,0.0473,-0.0004,0.0138,-0.0123,0.0074,-0.0318,-0.0048,0.0165,0.0008,0.0078,-0.013,-0.007,-0.0002,-0.001,-0.0033,0.0032
ZEM08:ZEM08,0.0102,0.0178,0.0036,-0.0278,0.0207,-0.0163,-0.0003,0.0025,0.0267,0.0473,-0.0012,0.0088,-0.0167,-0.0031,-0.0302,-0.0046,0.0102,0,0.0058,-0.0058,-0.0077,0.0023,-0.0025,-0.0047,-0.0001
ZEM09:ZEM09,0.011,0.0169,0.0042,-0.0259,0.0199,-0.0171,0.0011,-0.0001,0.0255,0.0493,0.0086,0.0112,-0.0164,0.0035,-0.0263,-0.0097,0.0139,0.0003,0.0073,-0.0063,-0.006,0.0009,-0.0099,-0.0059,0.0029
ZEM11:ZEM11,0.0103,0.0186,0.0034,-0.0254,0.0209,-0.0168,-0.0014,-0.0011,0.0221,0.0463,0.0044,0.0109,-0.0201,-0.0022,-0.0232,-0.0149,0.0098,0.0042,0.0096,-0.0115,-0.0105,-0.0018,-0.0009,-0.0052,-0.001
ZEM12:ZEM12,0.0102,0.0185,0.0002,-0.0296,0.0209,-0.0177,-0.0017,0.001,0.0248,0.0476,0.0012,0.0037,-0.0184,0.0076,-0.0276,-0.0122,0.0083,0.0017,0.0142,-0.011,-0.011,0.006,0.0031,-0.0066,0.0037
ZEM13:ZEM13,0.0093,0.0184,0.0049,-0.0285,0.0226,-0.0122,0.0007,0.0015,0.0233,0.0452,0.0061,0.0065,-0.0143,0.0028,-0.0262,-0.0194,-0.0005,0.0001,0.0048,-0.0196,-0.0035,-0.0008,-0.0006,-0.0116,-0.0024
ZEM14:ZEM14,0.0102,0.0184,0.0041,-0.0275,0.0174,-0.0169,-0.0039,-0.0032,0.0244,0.0475,0.0064,0.0083,-0.0183,0.0049,-0.02,-0.0133,0.0028,0.0038,0.0059,-0.0108,-0.0074,0.0075,-0.0043,-0.0014,-0.0043
ZEM16:ZEM16,0.0095,0.0184,-0.0001,-0.0346,0.02,-0.0185,-0.0026,-0.0014,0.0226,0.0494,0.0028,0.016,-0.0229,0.0024,-0.028,-0.0155,0.0198,-0.0001,0.0093,-0.0087,-0.0158,0.0069,0.0014,0.0092,-0.0075
ZEM19:ZEM19,0.0096,0.0176,0.0046,-0.0273,0.0193,-0.0174,-0.0002,-0.004,0.0234,0.0468,0.0063,0.0096,-0.0189,-0.005,-0.0239,-0.0099,0.0122,-0.0029,0.0047,-0.0012,-0.0058,0.0054,-0.001,-0.0083,-0.0028
ZEM23:ZEM23,0.0105,0.0116,0.0085,0.0062,0.0068,0.0031,-0.0017,0.0028,0.0023,-0.0022,-0.0031,0.0055,-0.0004,-0.0012,0.0017,0.0124,0.0078,-0.0031,0.0003,-0.0023,-0.0052,0.0008,0.0077,0.0025,0.0028
ZEM24:ZEM24,0.0099,0.0176,0.0016,-0.0309,0.0218,-0.0155,-0.0005,-0.0002,0.0247,0.0481,0.0063,0.0074,-0.0188,-0.0011,-0.0314,0.0017,0.0292,-0.0017,0.0033,-0.0122,-0.006,0.0035,0.0014,-0.0014,-0.0018
ZEM27:ZEM27,0.0098,0.018,0.0008,-0.031,0.0186,-0.0149,-0.0011,-0.0016,0.022,0.0496,0.0071,0.0044,-0.0166,0.0031,-0.0221,-0.0221,-0.0015,-0.001,0.0155,-0.0099,-0.0058,0.0039,-0.0059,0.0019,-0.0057
ZEM30:ZEM30,0.0095,0.0187,0.0015,-0.0315,0.0172,-0.0183,-0.0015,-0.0015,0.0213,0.0458,0.0018,0.0054,-0.0168,-0.0038,-0.0235,-0.0013,0.0079,0.0004,0.0119,-0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0012,-0.0022,-0.0042,-0.0004
ZEM33:ZEM33,0.0101,0.0181,0.005,-0.0266,0.0189,-0.0127,-0.002,-0.0015,0.0181,0.0481,0.0008,0.0167,-0.0168,-0.0004,-0.025,-0.0115,0.0138,-0.0026,0.0018,-0.0083,-0.0105,0.0071,-0.008,0.0013,0.0021
ZEM35:ZEM35,0.0093,0.0176,0.0034,-0.0291,0.0203,-0.019,-0.0024,-0.0051,0.0247,0.0447,0.0067,0.0086,-0.0163,-0.0022,-0.0322,-0.0057,0.0027,0.0004,0.0089,-0.0127,-0.0059,0.0024,-0.0029,-0.003,-0.0037
ZEM36:ZEM36,0.01,0.0193,0.0023,-0.0288,0.0202,-0.0159,-0.0003,-0.0003,0.0243,0.0518,0.0101,0.0136,-0.0162,0.0024,-0.0337,-0.0135,0.009,0.0008,0.0086,-0.0083,-0.0154,-0.0025,0.0029,-0.0069,-0.0022
ZEM39:ZEM39,0.0102,0.0148,0.0057,-0.0079,0.0096,-0.0072,0.0003,0.0007,0.0036,0.0212,0.0022,0.006,-0.0091,-0.002,-0.0125,-0.0018,0.0118,-0.0012,0.0008,0,-0.01,0.0055,0.004,0.0034,-0.0052

ZEM23 should be the roman-age sample.

Yes, completely unrelated sample with modern day Croats unlike what this embarassing paper states.

Distance to: ZEM23:ZEM23

0.02414881 51.80% German + 48.20% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02428934 45.60% Shetlandic + 54.40% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02445160 44.60% Danish + 55.40% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02452758 44.40% Norwegian + 55.60% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02497291 58.00% Austrian + 42.00% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02501161 53.40% Turkish_Rumeli + 46.60% Welsh
0.02546350 49.20% Czech + 50.80% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02571644 47.80% Dutch + 52.20% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02573384 42.00% Icelandic + 58.00% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02598760 82.60% Montenegrin + 17.40% Tajik_Shugnan
0.02601027 44.40% Irish + 55.60% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02604688 42.80% Swedish + 57.20% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02610874 53.80% French_Seine-Maritime + 46.20% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02610992 47.60% French_Brittany + 52.40% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02621280 45.00% Orcadian + 55.00% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02621514 81.80% Montenegrin + 18.20% Tajik_Rushan
0.02627460 54.40% Afrikaner + 45.60% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02630035 75.40% Austrian + 24.60% Turkish_Southwest
0.02647703 45.00% Scottish + 55.00% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02654702 56.80% Hungarian + 43.20% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02672894 13.00% Jatt_Pathak + 87.00% Montenegrin
0.02678231 84.60% Montenegrin + 15.40% Tajik_Ishkashim
0.02678511 70.60% German + 29.40% Turkish_Southwest
0.02689273 44.60% English_Cornwall + 55.40% Turkish_Rumeli
0.02695943 46.60% German_East + 53.40% Turkish_Rumeli

Dating corresponds to this Sarmatian tribe that entered Roman service as federates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iazyges

At that time they were present in the area.

**vbnetkhio** · 08-22-2021, 03:56 PM

Here are the k13 results of the Chalcolithic and Roman samples. The others have ancestry proportions far outside modern ranges so they would get useless results in k13 (and they also aren't very relevant for modern populations)

Chalcolithic

North_Atlantic	24.90
Baltic	9.96
West_Med	27.24
West_Asian	5.80
East_Med	24.66
Red_Sea	0.73
South_Asian	0.86
East_Asian	1.47
Siberian	2.37
Amerindian	0.76
Oceanian	0.74
NE_african	0
Sub-Saharan	0.51

Roman

North_Atlantic	29.41
Baltic	19.37
West_Med	13.62
West_Asian	11.79
East_Med	13.39
Red_Sea	1.30
South_Asian	3.87
East_Asian	2.86
Siberian	1.96
Amerindian	1.74
Oceanian	0.69
NE_african	0
Sub-Saharan	0

**Jana** · 08-22-2021, 07:27 PM

K13 breakdown for Croatian Roman sample. And they dared to claim it is genetically like modern Croats

Good lesson that just become something may be academic paper, it doesn't need to have credibility.

Target: Croatia_Roman
Distance: 1.3627% / 1.36270920 | ADC: 0.25x RC

39.4 Italian_Friuli_VG
20.1 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
20.0 Afrikaner
16.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.2 Malay
1.7 Pamiri_Tajikistan

Target: Croatia_Roman
Distance: 1.9718% / 1.97183825 | R3P

48.2 Afrikaner
32.0 Macedonian_North
19.8 Turkmen

Target: Croatia_Roman
Distance: 1.4325% / 1.43251817 | R4P

55.7 German_South
29.1 Turk_Deliorman
12.0 Turkmen
3.2 Austroasiatic_Ho

Distance to: Croatia_Roman

3.55540952 48.60% Afrikaner + 51.40% Turk_Trakya
3.59374872 62.00% Afrikaner + 38.00% Turk_North_West
3.65994304 73.40% Swiss_German + 26.60% Turkmen
3.72179723 72.60% French_Alsace + 27.40% Turkmen
3.80025357 61.40% German + 38.60% Turk_North_West
3.84917022 64.80% German + 35.20% Turk_South
3.86050008 38.80% Irish + 61.20% Turk_Trakya
3.86088461 38.20% Irish_Munster + 61.80% Turk_Trakya
3.86167788 39.60% Irish_Leinster + 60.40% Turk_Trakya
3.86191818 38.60% Irish_Connacht + 61.40% Turk_Trakya
3.88754134 38.00% Irish_Ulster + 62.00% Turk_Trakya
3.89949279 40.00% Scottish_East + 60.00% Turk_Trakya
3.90011750 39.60% Scottish_Southwest + 60.40% Turk_Trakya
3.90186776 40.00% Scottish_North_Highlands + 60.00% Turk_Trakya
3.91011647 43.00% French_Northwest + 57.00% Turk_Trakya
3.92290549 41.80% English_Midlands + 58.20% Turk_Trakya
3.92618268 62.00% Turk_Trakya + 38.00% West_Scottish
3.93351677 42.60% English_Southeast + 57.40% Turk_Trakya
3.93395103 39.80% Scottish + 60.20% Turk_Trakya
3.94290716 41.40% English_Southwest + 58.60% Turk_Trakya
3.94411665 64.40% German + 35.60% Turk_Anatolia
3.94586960 41.60% English + 58.40% Turk_Trakya
3.95283826 59.60% Turk_Trakya + 40.40% Welsh
3.96861212 39.60% Scottish_Northeast + 60.40% Turk_Trakya
3.97593565 40.60% English_North + 59.40% Turk_Trakya