What's your K13 updated ethnic composition?

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57295516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Serb_Serbia_West
21.1 Polish_Lower_Silesia
12.9 Csángó-Ceangău
6.7 Balkar
0.5 Kalash


then removed ex-Yugo, Bulgarian, Albanian and from Romania/Moldova kept Romania_Moldova_South:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.4170% / 1.41702431 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Polish_Lower_Silesia
29.7 Romania_Moldavia_South
21.6 Hungarian_Alföld
9.3 Balkar
5.6 Italian_Sardinia

[Ion Basescul]

Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.9291% / 0.92907422 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Romania_Moldavia_North
43.2 Csángó-Ceangău
6.8 Moldova_North
1.3 Nogay
1.3 Xibo

-Csángó-Ceangău
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8606% / 0.86062960 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.9 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
27.1 Moldova_North
23.7 Serb_Serbia_West
2.7 Nogay
1.6 Xibo

-Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8968% / 0.89675703 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.5 Serb_Serbia_West
26.1 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
20.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
8.4 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Kazakh

-Serb_Serbia_West
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8002% / 0.80022536 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.6 Romania_Moldavia_North
36.0 Moldova_North
14.1 Swiss_French
4.0 Kazakh
0.3 Nogay

-Swiss_French
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 1.0043% / 1.00429151 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
13.9 Austrian
10.4 Moldova_North
3.8 Kazakh
1.1 Nogay

Oh well, I can't win.

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3224% / 2.32239073 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.3 Moldova_North
11.9 Italian_Sardinia
10.8 Latvian


- Moldova_North (sorry )

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3364% / 2.33644932 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.4 Moldova_average
15.6 Mordovian
13.5 Italian_Sardinia
11.5 Latvian



- Moldova_average (sorry )

Target: Dušan
Distance: 3.1862% / 3.18619123 | ADC: 0.25x
77.0 Serb_Bosnia
17.3 Mordovian
5.6 Italian_Sardinia
0.1 Latvian


Target: Dušan
Distance: 4.1939% / 4.19387995 | ADC: 0.5x
94.1 Serb_Bosnia
4.8 Mordovian
1.1 Polish_Silesia

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57295516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Serb_Serbia_West
21.1 Polish_Lower_Silesia
12.9 Csángó-Ceangău
6.7 Balkar
0.5 Kalash


then removed ex-Yugo, Bulgarian, Albanian and from Romania/Moldova kept Romania_Moldova_South:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.4170% / 1.41702431 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Polish_Lower_Silesia
29.7 Romania_Moldavia_South
21.6 Hungarian_Alföld
9.3 Balkar
5.6 Italian_Sardinia

removed all Polish as well and got a surprisingly accurate one (for first two components), though I don't know what to make of that Basque, which if I remove gets to Sardinian, and there's some excess North Caucasian that gets picked as well:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.9678% / 1.96777702 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
21.0 Romania_Moldavia_South
11.0 Balkar
7.0 French_Basque

[Gergő Marosvári]

Inspired by Nurzat, i decided to "re-run" our results. (with trying to delete some populations)
Our results are much better than before!!!

I deleted the Polish Silesian reference in my results.

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.5613% / 2.56127308 | ADC: 0.25x
59.4 Hungarian_North
25.1 Ukrainian_Carpathian
13.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
1.6 Chamar
0.8 Italian_Sardinia
0.1 Yoruban

For my grandmother, i deleted the Czechs. Also perfect!!!

Target: Ilona
Distance: 2.0258% / 2.02584208 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Hungarian_North
19.4 Swedish
14.4 Sorb_Lusatia
1.3 Austrian
1.1 Yemenite_Jewish

While for my mother, i deleted the Moldova Ukrainian and Bosnian (Bosnia) references.

Target: Katalin
Distance: 1.3611% / 1.36113736 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.6 Hungarian_North
22.7 Russian_Southwest
15.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Damiao(Portuguese)
Distance: 0.7003% / 0.70030984 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.3 Spanish_Cataluna
24.0 Portuguese
15.4 Spanish_Andalucia
9.0 French_Provence
1.7 Georgian_imereti
1.6 Mbuti_Pygmy
0.5 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.5 Papuan

Distance to: Damiao(Portuguese)
2.63556446 Portuguese
3.54823900 Spanish_Extremadura
4.00403546 Spanish_Cataluna
4.01922878 Spanish_Murcia
4.23276505 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.53425848 Spanish
4.58912846 Spanish_Galicia
4.79649872 Spanish_Valencia
5.33152886 Spanish_Andalucia
5.59234298 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.31288365 Swiss-Italian2
6.45104643 French_South
7.00690374 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.13349143 French_Provence
7.24648880 Spanish_Cantabria
7.58702181 Swiss_Italian
8.08747798 Italian_Piedmont
8.81118607 Spanish_Aragon
9.13535987 French
9.39987766 Italian_Lombardy
9.40178175 Italian_Trentino
9.64332412 Italian_Veneto
9.72881288 Southwest_French
10.48359671 French_Central
11.34684538 Italian_Friuli_VG

[Lemminkäinen]

I got this from ph2ter. My Voronezh Russian cousins hello, but why Voronezh and Moscow. Are they cool descendants of Gengish Khan? Have you explanation why my result in South Finland/Estonia is connected to European side of the Southeast Russia, but not to Finno-Ugric Volga ? Not that I have doubts I have got similar results before.



Btw, I got Italian from companies providing ancestry tests

[Komintasavalta]

I got this from ph2ter. My Voronezh Russian cousins hello, but why Voronezh and Moscow. Are they cool descendants of Gengish Khan? Have you explanation why my result in South Finland/Estonia is connected to European side of the Southeast Russia, but not to Finno-Ugric Volga ? Not that I have doubts I have got similar results before.

You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:

> k13=read.csv("https://pastebin.com/raw/RrxXYCp1",r=1)
> fst=as.matrix(as.dist(read.csv(text=",,,,,,,,,,,,
19,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,36,,,,,,,,,,,
26,32,36,,,,,,,,,,
26,35,28,21,,,,,,,,,
52,62,50,48,39,,,,,,,,
64,65,76,57,60,82,,,,,,,
114,114,122,110,111,127,76,,,,,,
111,111,123,109,112,130,83,56,,,,,
138,137,154,138,144,161,120,113,105,,,,
179,181,187,177,176,191,146,166,177,217,,,
122,127,124,116,108,121,113,145,151,185,203,,
146,150,150,140,135,141,133,164,170,204,220,41,",h=F)))
> fst=fst/mean(fst)
> mult=as.matrix(k13)%*%cmdscale(fst,ncol(fst)-1)
> s=sort(as.matrix(dist(mult))[,"Lemminkainen(Finn)"])
> cat(head(paste(sprintf("%.3f",s),names(s)),50),sep="\n")
0.000 Lemminkainen(Finn)
1.338 Southwest_Finnish
1.729 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother1(Russian)
1.755 Russian_average
1.781 Mary(Russian)
2.001 Estonian
2.080 Silentkiller(Russian)
2.203 North-Swedish
2.224 Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
2.359 Pipa(Russian)
2.430 Not_a_Cop(Russian)
2.491 Russian_Kostroma
2.529 Vyacheslav(Russian)
2.544 Finnish
2.723 Blondbeast(Russian)
2.943 Mazik_grandpa(Swede)
2.996 Stanislav(Russian-Pole)
2.999 Krivich(Russian)
3.227 valera27(Russian)
3.266 Russian_Kargopol
3.317 Vari(Estonian)
3.320 LecomtsevAlexander(Russian)
3.372 Humanophage(Russian)
3.388 Mordovian
3.395 Mazik(Swede)
3.460 Not_a_Cop_Grandfather2(Russian)
3.679 Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.705 I.vet(Russian)
3.786 Levono(Swede)
3.934 Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
3.958 Yamnaya(Russian_¼_Bashkir)
4.050 Lemgrant(Ukrainian)
4.072 Drogin(Norwegian-Finn)
4.186 Sippola(Finn)
4.226 Aila(Finn)
4.276 Norka(Russian-Tatar)
4.296 Russian_Southwest
4.320 Russian_Northern_Dvina
4.424 East_Finnish
4.424 Michal(Pole)
4.753 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
4.757 Schwop(Swede)
4.768 Jusarius(Finn)
4.812 Halge(Swede)
4.827 Julkka(Finn)
4.827 Daos777(Ukrainian-Moldovan-Pole)
4.896 Beo242(Russian-German)
4.899 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother2(Russian-Pole)
4.928 rurov0(Russian)
4.940 Sweden_Svealand_East

Does the Southwest_Finnish average consist of actual Southwestern Finns, or does it just include some of the most western-shifted Finnish samples? It seems way too western.

[Lemminkäinen]

You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:

> k13=read.csv("https://pastebin.com/raw/RrxXYCp1",r=1)
> fst=as.matrix(as.dist(read.csv(text=",,,,,,,,,,,,
19,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,36,,,,,,,,,,,
26,32,36,,,,,,,,,,
26,35,28,21,,,,,,,,,
52,62,50,48,39,,,,,,,,
64,65,76,57,60,82,,,,,,,
114,114,122,110,111,127,76,,,,,,
111,111,123,109,112,130,83,56,,,,,
138,137,154,138,144,161,120,113,105,,,,
179,181,187,177,176,191,146,166,177,217,,,
122,127,124,116,108,121,113,145,151,185,203,,
146,150,150,140,135,141,133,164,170,204,220,41,",h=F)))
> fst=fst/mean(fst)
> mult=as.matrix(k13)%*%cmdscale(fst,ncol(fst)-1)
> s=sort(as.matrix(dist(mult))[,"Lemminkainen(Finn)"])
> cat(head(paste(sprintf("%.3f",s),names(s)),50),sep="\n")
0.000 Lemminkainen(Finn)
1.338 Southwest_Finnish
1.729 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother1(Russian)
1.755 Russian_average
1.781 Mary(Russian)
2.001 Estonian
2.080 Silentkiller(Russian)
2.203 North-Swedish
2.224 Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
2.359 Pipa(Russian)
2.430 Not_a_Cop(Russian)
2.491 Russian_Kostroma
2.529 Vyacheslav(Russian)
2.544 Finnish
2.723 Blondbeast(Russian)
2.943 Mazik_grandpa(Swede)
2.996 Stanislav(Russian-Pole)
2.999 Krivich(Russian)
3.227 valera27(Russian)
3.266 Russian_Kargopol
3.317 Vari(Estonian)
3.320 LecomtsevAlexander(Russian)
3.372 Humanophage(Russian)
3.388 Mordovian
3.395 Mazik(Swede)
3.460 Not_a_Cop_Grandfather2(Russian)
3.679 Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.705 I.vet(Russian)
3.786 Levono(Swede)
3.934 Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
3.958 Yamnaya(Russian_¼_Bashkir)
4.050 Lemgrant(Ukrainian)
4.072 Drogin(Norwegian-Finn)
4.186 Sippola(Finn)
4.226 Aila(Finn)
4.276 Norka(Russian-Tatar)
4.296 Russian_Southwest
4.320 Russian_Northern_Dvina
4.424 East_Finnish
4.424 Michal(Pole)
4.753 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
4.757 Schwop(Swede)
4.768 Jusarius(Finn)
4.812 Halge(Swede)
4.827 Julkka(Finn)
4.827 Daos777(Ukrainian-Moldovan-Pole)
4.896 Beo242(Russian-German)
4.899 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother2(Russian-Pole)
4.928 rurov0(Russian)
4.940 Sweden_Svealand_East

Does the Southwest_Finnish average consist of actual Southwestern Finns, or does it just include some of the most western-shifted Finnish samples? It seems way too western.

This likely proves that the Siberian admixture plays a big role in our results. Not alone of course, but in case results are in other aspects similar. Another difference comes from the deep genetic trench in Latvia and Lithuania. Geneticist should start to section genetic ancestry, locate sections and compose the ancestry by weighting those section to avoid wide genome admixture errors.

[Leto]

You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:

How so? Your definition of wog must be entirely your own because as far as I know Finns have the least amount of Southern Caucasoid in Europe and in the Volga-Ural region most people are Russians followed by Tatars. The Tatars have a lot more West Asian as well as more Southern Mongoloid type admixture (South Siberian/Mongolian) than the Finns. Overall, the Russian Uralics are swarthier and less blonde than the Finns of Finland (or Scandinavians in general).
See my brand new Komi and Udmurt averages for K13.