What's your K13 updated ethnic composition?

[Dunai]

Your looks nice with the Hungarian Szekely result.
Your Nth Swedish probably doesnt make sense in terms of your ancestry.

Personally I dont find K13 modelling composition very good.
Because it tends to produce a balancing act of populations that will produce the lowest distance and the modelling I think is based on components .
For example because I get around 1.80 Red Sea I get attributed small % Saudi ...do I actually have Saudi ancestry ...most likely not .
Because I get 2.29 % Siberian ... K13 attributes me some Finnish % ...do I have Finnish ancestry probably not.
On the otherhand the Austrian and German % I get are probably midpoint populations between my Hungarian and British ancestry but on their own probably not specific to my actual ancestry.
On the other hand the distance to populations result I get in K13 is probably not too unrealistic given my background.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.4838% / 1.48379279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Austrian
32.8 German
22.4 Southwest_Finnish
4.4 Saudi


Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
7.00882301 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82207459 Hungarian
9.51402123 Croat_North
9.59022419 Hungarian_North
9.87401134 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 French_Alsace
10.11848309 German_South
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.10263933 Afrikaner
11.34722874 North_German
11.69236931 Croat
11.71474712 Dutch_South
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
11.72239310 Croat_West
11.80086014 Belgian
11.80086014 Flemish
11.95351831 German_Northwest
12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely

To a certain point I do agree that there might be some small flaws in these calculators that won't offer you a perfect result, but I still believe K13 is the best calculator for modern population estimates, better than the commercial DNA test companies provide. Since you are two-way mixed, you obviously won't get as precise estimates as someone with only one major ancestry, but I can assume that Saudi percentage might wanna tell you that possibly on your Hungarian side you had some Middle Eastern ancestry deep down, or who knows, maybe it comes from your British side, who were world travelers.

[oszkar07]

Distance to: Arzanene
5.90901007 Greek_Caucasus
6.02751192 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.25075195 Greek_Trabzon
7.15753449 Armenian
7.33901220 Armenian_West
7.66313252 Armenian_East
9.38529701 Georgian_Jewish
9.65586350 Laz
9.67809382 Turk_East
10.43876908 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
10.55185766 Turk_Meskhetian
10.69691077 Turk_South_East
11.02933815 Assyrian_North
11.22432181 Zaza
11.42334452 Assyrian_South
11.45686257 Assyrian_West
11.47100693 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
11.55426328 Turkmen_Iraq
12.23425519 Kurd_Iran
12.30438946 Turk_Turkey_average
12.85032684 Kurd_Sorani
12.98328541 Greek_Cappadocian
13.01509124 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.35202232 Kurdish
13.38153952 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 2.9682% / 2.96817031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Greek_Caucasus
33.3 Laz
6.5 Italian_Sardinia
4.0 Sakilli

alternate admixture

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 4.5211% / 4.52105736 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.4 Armenian_West
21.3 Georgian_imereti
7.9 Italian_Sardinia
2.4 Velamas

How did you do the alternate admixture.

Below is my wife's result she is Armenian from Iran.

Target:Oszkar'sWife
Distance: 1.4207% / 1.42067907 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Greek_Caucasus
20.5 Talysh
9.4 Georgian_Jewish
9.1 Armenian_East
3.6 Lebanese_Druze
0.4 Latvian

Distance to: Oszkar'sWife
2.45611482 Armenian
2.65969923 Armenian_East
3.88971721 Armenian_West
3.90453582 Greek_Caucasus
4.82037343 Georgian_Jewish
4.93634480 Greek_Trabzon
5.61142584 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.16194806 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
7.75521115 Turk_East
7.87316963 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.22800705 Assyrian_North
8.42585901 Turk_South_East
8.45056211 Zaza
8.51076965 Turkmen_Iraq
8.79772698 Assyrian_South
8.95810806 Assyrian_West
9.04941435 Laz
9.29273910 Kurd_Iran
9.30705646 Kurd_Sorani
9.81293534 Kurdish
9.85492263 Turk_Meskhetian
10.42772746 Talysh
10.67621656 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.02980961 Mandean
11.03966485 Azerbaijani_Turkey

[PAGANE]

Pagane:

Distance: 0.4306% / 0.43056887
35.1 Austrian
17.7 Belarusian
10.7 Georgian_Hebrew
8.4 Greek_chios
6.8 Lebanese_Christian
5.4 Georgian
4.8 Norwegian
2.3 Laz
2.1 Saudi
1.9 Pomak_Bulgaria
1.8 Swiss_Italian
1.4 Greek_Eastern-Thracian
1.4 Greek_trabzon




Distance to: Pagane
5.49337783 Bulgaria_Northeast
6.73392159 Bulgaria_Southwest
6.77109297 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.86515113 Bulgaria_average value
6.93183237 Romania_Muntenia
7.07248895 Romania_ Wallachia
7.14602687 Bulgaria_Southeast
7.21169190 Romania_Dobruja
7.24403893 Turk_Deliorman
7.30625759 Bulgaria_South Center
7.57826497 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.59844063 Romania_Oltenia
7.65735594 Romania_Banat
7.72326356 Pomak_Greece
7,74647016 Romania_average
7.75187719 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
8.01981920 Romania_Moldova_South
8.11483826 Romania_Transylvania
8.17517584 Bulgaria_Northwest
8.46944508 Bošnjak_Sandzak
8.47881478 Moldova_South
8.48776178 Serbian_South_Montenegro
8.87956643 Macedonian _ North
8.96397233 Montenegrin
9.06029801 Vlach (Aromanian) _average value

Purpose: Pagan
Distance: 1.0979% / 1.09794128 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Pomak_Greece
22.7 Bulgaria_Northeast
19.1 North_Germany
10.5 Tabasaran
6.0 Saudi

[Leto]

There was at least one thread about K13 Vahaduo.

Who added these Polish pops? The word Polish is missing, not everyone is supposed to know what Kujawy or Podlaskie is

Distance to: Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
3.31190278 Russian_average
4.05414603 Russian_Kostroma
4.62871472 Russian_Southwest
4.89587582 Mordovian
5.23661150 Russian_Kargopol
5.81397454 Ukrainian
5.88755467 Russian_Smolensk
6.38461432 Mazovia
6.41117774 Belarusian_Minsk
6.63856912 Russian_Northern_Dvina
6.87531090 Belorussian
7.20995146 Polish_Kielce
7.36619305 Podlaskie
7.54497184 Kujawy
7.55859775 Polish
8.63229402 Greater_Poland
9.10361467 South_Polish
9.17712373 Lower_Silesia
9.22854810 Polish_Masuria
9.24211556 Moldova_Ukrainian

Target: Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
Distance: 1.2622% / 1.26218879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.8 Russian_Kostroma
12.1 Polish
9.9 Russian_Smolensk
6.9 Russian_average
3.3 Saudi
1.0 Karitiana


Distance to: Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
4.20736259 Russian_Smolensk
4.28399346 Belarusian_Minsk
4.83150080 Kujawy
4.99538787 Russian_average
5.54149799 Lithuanian
6.06098177 Belorussian
6.12467958 Mazovia
6.41957164 Russian_Kargopol
6.62116304 Russian_Southwest
6.74490178 Russian_Kostroma
7.02482740 Polish
7.39785780 Ukrainian
7.55277432 Polish_Kielce
7.98814121 Mordovian
8.11964285 Estonian
8.35177825 Russian_Northern_Dvina
8.73361323 Podlaskie
8.77946468 Lower_Silesia
9.06180446 Polish_Masuria
9.40781058 Latvian

Target: Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
Distance: 1.6628% / 1.66282228 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.0 Latvian
39.8 Lower_Silesia
12.9 Russian_Kargopol
1.9 Kujawy
1.4 Dargin


Distance to: Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.13335284 Mordovian
4.27915880 Russian_Kostroma
4.35253949 Russian_Kargopol
5.32656550 Russian_Northern_Dvina
5.39065859 Russian_average
7.52068481 Russian_Southwest
8.66844853 Russian_Smolensk
8.76212874 Belarusian_Minsk
9.56834364 Ukrainian
9.60279126 Belorussian
10.01031968 East_Finnish
10.02359217 Mazovia
10.64202518 Kujawy
10.75852685 Lithuanian
11.10746146 Podlaskie
11.26708924 Polish_Kielce
11.45738626 Polish
11.87284717 Estonian
12.34536350 Finnish
12.61220441 Lower_Silesia

Target: Leto_Mom(Russian)
Distance: 1.7735% / 1.77345110 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.1 Mordovian
27.3 Russian_Northern_Dvina
19.8 Latvian
8.3 Chuvash
2.7 Saudi
0.8 Karitiana

[CommonSense]

Target: CommonSense
Distance: 1.9030% / 1.90301565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.3 Serb_Serbia_West
4.3 Dargin
1.8 Kalash
1.6 Italian_Sardinia

Without any ADC I get a breakdown similar to others in the thread:

Target: CommonSense
Distance: 0.5081% / 0.50808037
40.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
29.8 Silesian
11.5 Lower_Silesia
7.5 French_Basque
5.0 Georgian_imereti
3.0 Dargin
1.7 Italian_Sardinia
1.2 Kalash

[Gallop]

Father FTDNA

Target: Father
Distance: 1.4454% / 1.44537981 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.5 Southwest_French
39.9 Spanish_Valencia
4.5 Spanish_Galicia
3.5 Yoruban
1.8 Italian_Sardinia
0.8 Dolgan


Father 23andMe

Target: Father
Distance: 1.1726% / 1.17256587 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.3 Spanish_Cantabria
35.5 Southwest_French
10.2 Swiss-Italian2
8.7 Spanish_Cataluña
3.1 Yoruban
1.2 Selkup

Well in this case it was 23andMe that was given to my father by an Italian ancestor from the 1700s backwards.


Target: Gallop
Distance: 1.7108% / 1.71076155 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.5 French_Southwest
32.3 Southwest_French
8.0 Ossetian
3.9 Somali
1.3 Lak


Well you have to use some imagination with some very exotic results like lak for example.

In this case the result of Ossetia I had seen in these results:

Eurasia - Modern Origins
Third Oracle Run
This mathematical setting divides your genome into 8 fragments, with each fragment representing 12.5% of your genome. This setting is very useful in modern ethnicity estimates, since the size of the generated fragments match perfectly the percentage of DNA inherited from a great-grandfather.

Aquitaine : 62.5%
Asturias : 12.5%
Cantabria : 12.5%
North_Ossetia : 12.5%


Thus, these K13 are a very biased and incomplete part, you can glimpse something but it is obviously not the whole. Thus these K13 are a very biased and incomplete part, you can glimpse something but it is obviously not the whole and some results must be reinterpreted because they must go somewhere else than the result.

[PAGANE]

Purpose: pagan brother

Distance: 1.4243% / 1.42430418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.7 Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.2 Lak
4.2 Bulgaria_Southeastern
3.2 Saudi
2.7 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan


Distance to: pagan brother
5.05170268 Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.13682781 Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.30302744 Turk_Deliorman
5.96918755 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.77966813 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.98126063 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.00120704 Bulgaria_average
7.00959343 Pomak_Greece
7.07610769 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.37461185 Romania_Muntenia
7.39647889 Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.43971774 Turk_Makedonya
7.75521115 Romania_Wallachia
7.84524697 Romania_Dobruja
7.96809889 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
8.11210823 Turk_Trakya
8.53287173 Macedonian_South
8.60557378 Macedonian_North
8.62631439 Romania_Banat
8.70491241 Macedonian
8.75435320 Romania_Oltenia
9.03472744 Bulgaria_Northwestern
9.15375333 Romania_average
9.41053133 Moldova_South
9.42568300 Bosniak_Sandzak

Purpose: mother of pagan

Distance: 0.5263% / 0.52634487 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.7 Greek_Istanbul
31.4 Pomak_Greece
8.4 North_German
2.5 Dargin




Distance to: mother of pagan
4.83465614 Turk_Makedonya
5.73365503 Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.16801427 Turk_Deliorman
6.32913106 Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.52059046 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.88844685 Greek_Istanbul
6.90467233 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
7.55405851 Turk_Trakya
7.59185089 Greek_Northeast
7.85539942 Pomak_Greece
7.92847400 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.94112712 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.10781105 Bulgaria_Northcentral
8.13366461 Greek_Northern-Thrace
8.23457346 Greek
8.24972727 Macedonian_South
8.34326075 Macedonian
8.37500448 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
8.38466457 Bulgaria_average
8.52844652 Pomak_Bulgaria
8.52938450 Macedonian_North
8.55414519 Greek_Central_Macedonia
8.63557902 Greek_Thessaly
8.99263032 Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.07348885 Romania_Muntenia

[Lemminkäinen]

Distance to: Mm
3.92512420 Southwest_Finnish
5.08927303 Finnish
6.64627715 Estonian
7.33992507 Polish_Masuria
9.02140787 Polish
9.04420256 East_Finnish
9.13783344 Podlaskie
9.15074860 Kujawy
9.41718111 Greater_Poland
9.82296289 Sorb_Lusatia
10.02744733 Belorussian
10.42898845 Polish_Kielce
10.66616613 Russian_Smolensk
10.82567319 South_Polish
11.13265916 Mazovia
11.31038019 Russian_average
11.49362867 Russian_Kostroma
11.73129149 Belarusian_Minsk
11.83323286 Russian_Northern_Dvina
12.06009121 Lithuanian
12.24005719 Lower_Silesia
12.32563183 North-Swedish
12.43800627 Silesian
12.50424328 Russian_Kargopol
12.68254312 Ukrainian

Target: Mm
Distance: 0.6823% / 0.68230414
67.1 Estonian
29.0 North-Swedish
2.0 Irish_Connacht
1.3 Dai
0.6 Kalash

Target: Mm
Distance: 0.8089% / 0.80892607 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.3 Estonian
32.6 North-Swedish
1.6 Cambodian
1.5 Lower_Silesia

[MandM]

(Dnagenetic "Myheritage raw dna")

Distance to: Milenko
4.38131259 Moldova_South
4.60924072 Romania_Banat
4.66804027 Romania_average
4.86537768 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.95751954 Romania_Transylvania
5.05071282 Romania_Oltenia
5.10327346 Montenegrin
5.18807286 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
5.20640951 Romania_Dobruja
5.30510132 Romania_Wallachia
5.43000921 Romania_Maramures
5.57362539 Serb_Serbia_South
5.59595390 Romania_Muntenia
5.66559794 Serb_Herzegovina
5.66864181 Romania_Crisana
5.73685454 Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.74845197 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.80634997 Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.89350490 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.16802237 Serb
6.34447003 Bulgaria_average
6.43099526 Serb_Serbia_West
6.64088097 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.79540286 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.90734392 Serb_Serbia_Central

Target: Milenko
Distance: 0.5734% / 0.57340879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.5 Moldova_North
23.6 Moldova_South
12.6 Italian_Sardinia
4.9 Kabardin
2.1 Burusho
1.5 Yoruban
1.1 NAN_Melanesian
0.7 Mayan

[Kyp]

Target: Kyp_new
Distance: 2.3851% / 2.38505190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.1 Greek_Istanbul
20.8 Turk_Deliorman
18.6 North_German
16.2 Tajik_Mountain
3.8 Brahmin_UP
2.5 Pamiri_Tajikistan