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    Yes, as usual Europe is the babysitter of the world...but Europe is to blame.
    EU is the lap dog of USA, wherever conflict in which americans are involved european countries will be there supporting them.
    When the conflict is over USA washes its hands and Europe cleans the mess they left behind.

    European political decisions are very hypocritical: "Hey world, look at me! we are not like the americans who invade your country, we send our european armies as a peacemakers, we are the good guys".
    When in fact Europe is there because there are some kind of hidden economic interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autrigón View Post
    Yes, as usual Europe is the babysitter of the world...but Europe is to blame.
    EU is the lap dog of USA, wherever conflict in which americans are involved european countries will be there supporting them.
    When the conflict is over USA washes its hands and Europe cleans the mess they left behind.

    European political decisions are very hypocritical: "Hey world, look at me! we are not like the americans who invade your country, we send our european armies as a peacemakers, we are the good guys".
    When in fact Europe is there because there are some kind of hidden economic interests.
    American intervention in Syria = massive immigration of Syrians to Europe.
    American intervention in Afghanistan = massive immigration of Afghans to Europe.
    American intervention in Balkans = massive immigration of Balkanites to Western Europe.

    Seriously Yankees, stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    American intervention in Syria = massive immigration of Syrians to Europe.
    American intervention in Afghanistan = massive immigration of Afghans to Europe.
    American intervention in Balkans = massive immigration of Balkanites to Western Europe.

    Seriously Yankees, stop!
    American intervention in Syria = massive immigration of Syrians to Europe.
    correction : bachar el-assad dictatorship,torture in black sites, persecution against his own people etc..(200.000 deaths)= massive immigration of Syrians to Europe.
    Once seen by many states as a potential reformer, the United States, the European Union, and the majority of the Arab League called for Assad's resignation from the presidency in 2011 after he ordered a violent crackdown on Arab Spring protesters, which led to the Syrian Civil War.[26][27] In December 2013, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay stated that findings from an inquiry by the United Nations implicated Assad in war crimes.[28] The OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism concluded in October 2017 that Assad's government was responsible for the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack.[29] In June 2014, the American Syrian Accountability Project included Assad on a list of war crimes indictments of government officials and rebels it sent to the International Criminal Court.[30] Assad has rejected allegations of war crimes and criticised the American-led intervention in Syria for attempting regime change.[31][32]


    War crimes

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation has stated that at least 10 European citizens were tortured by the Assad government while detained during the Syrian Civil War, potentially leaving Assad open to prosecution by individual European countries for war crimes.[161] Stephen Rapp, the United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues, has argued that the crimes allegedly committed by Assad are the worst seen since those of Nazi Germany.[162] In March 2015, Rapp further stated that the case against Assad is "much better" than those against Slobodan Milošević of Serbia or Charles Taylor of Liberia, both of whom were indicted by international tribunals.[163]
    In a February 2015 interview with the BBC, Assad described accusations that the Syrian Arab Air Force used barrel bombs as "childish", stating that his forces have never used these types of "barrel" bombs and responded with a joke about not using "cooking pots" either.[164] The BBC Middle East editor conducting the interview, Jeremy Bowen, later described Assad's statement regarding barrel bombs as "patently not true".[165][166]
    Nadim Shehadi, the director of The Fares Center for Eastern Mediterranean Studies, stated that "In the early 1990s, Saddam Hussein was massacring his people and we were worried about the weapons inspectors," and claimed that "Assad did that too. He kept us busy with chemical weapons when he massacred his people."[167][168]
    In September 2015, France began an inquiry into Assad for crimes against humanity, with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius stating "Faced with these crimes that offend the human conscience, this bureaucracy of horror, faced with this denial of the values of humanity, it is our responsibility to act against the impunity of the killers".[169]
    In February 2016, head of the UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria, Paulo Pinheiro, told reporters: "The mass scale of deaths of detainees suggests that the government of Syria is responsible for acts that amount to extermination as a crime against humanity." The UN Commission reported finding "unimaginable abuses", including women and children as young as seven perishing while being held by Syrian authorities. The report also stated: "There are reasonable grounds to believe that high-ranking officers—including the heads of branches and directorates—commanding these detention facilities, those in charge of the military police, as well as their civilian superiors, knew of the vast number of deaths occurring in detention facilities ... yet did not take action to prevent abuse, investigate allegations or prosecute those responsible".[170]
    In March 2016, the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs led by New Jersey Rep. Chris Smith called on the Obama administration to create a war crimes tribunal to investigate and prosecute violations "whether committed by the officials of the Government of Syria or other parties to the civil war".[171]
    In April 2017, there was a sarin chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun that killed more than 80 people. The attack prompted US President Donald Trump to order the US military to launch 59 missiles at a Syrian airbase.[172] Several months later, a joint report from the United Nations and international chemical weapons inspectors found the attack was the work of the Assad regime.[29]
    In April 2018, an alleged chemical attack occurred in Douma, prompting the U.S. and its and allies to accuse Assad of violating international laws and initiating the 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs. Both Syria and Russia denied the involvement of the Syrian government at this time.[173][174]
    In June 2018, Germany's chief prosecutor issued an international arrest warrant for one of Assad's most senior military officials, Jamil Hassan.[175] Hassan is the head of Syria's powerful Air Force Intelligence Directorate. Detention centers run by Air Force Intelligence are among the most notorious in Syria, and thousands are believed to have died because of torture or neglect. Charges filed against Hassan claim he had command responsibility over the facilities and therefore knew of the abuse. The move against Hassan marked an important milestone of prosecutors trying to bring senior members of Assad's inner circle to trial for war crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
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    Yes, and Armenians, Chechens and Uzbeks brought up to enrich Russians as well.




    They have Soviet mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I think the answer is clear. After this Afghan conflict-war or whatever has happened there, there will be millions of Afghan refugees for Europe (when they being Muslims should want to go to Muslim countries ).

    Happened with Syrians and now with Afghans.

    I say this because 566 of these brownies already have arrived to Spain. This is intolerable

    Un total de 566 afganos han llegado ya a Espańa
    https://www.abc.es/espana/abci-total...3_noticia.html

    FUCK YOU ELITES, LEFTIES, JEWS AND REST OF SCUM. AND FUCK YOU MUSLIM BROWNIES.
    Except WW2 we luckily had Jews leave and state of Israel creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianv2 View Post
    Yes they do. Or they just fly to Mexico if they come from a visa free country.
    I see. I was wondering how do Africans and MENA migrants manage to arrive in South America or Mexico? Do someone give them plane tickets?

    Would you say who has been currently receiving more migrants: Europe, USA or Canada? I think Australia and NZ receive the least out of these nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post

    Problem is that the shit of USA predates the 1960s.

    By the way, what is the Trump legacy or achievements after all? nothing. Immigrants continued arriving, Jews ruling all and miscegenation happening.


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    Completely agreed. The problem is the US was founded on Liberal principles and Trump is too left leaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    I see. I was wondering how do Africans and MENA migrants manage to arrive in South America or Mexico? Do someone give them plane tickets?

    Would you say who has been currently receiving more migrants: Europe, USA or Canada? I think Australia and NZ receive the least out of these nations.
    Yes they get plane tickets.
    Rising migration restrictions are driving African refugees into the hands of Latin American smugglers
    In 2016, Brazilian Federal Police uncovered a smuggling network operating between Brazil and South Africa that delivered fake visas to Africans seeking to travel through Latin America to the United States or Canada. The documents allowed migrants to enter Brazil, Bolivia or Venezuela without getting arrested.

    Abdifatah Hussein Ahmed, a Brazil-based South African national ran the operation with two partners, and after a joint investigation with the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Ahmed was arrested in August 2019 for human trafficking.

    Details of the smuggling enterprise were made public as part of a nine-month investigation by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, the Latin American Center for Investigative Journalism and 16 media outlets from across the world, including The Museba Project, an independent investigative reporting organization covering Central Africa and the Great Lakes. The investigation exposed two top human smuggling organizations in Latin America and their global operations helping migrants from Asia and Africa seeking refuge in the US or Canada.
    https://qz.com/africa/1882848/africa...s-route-to-us/


    As more Africans learn from relatives and friends who have made the trip that crossing Latin America to the United States is tough but not impossible, more are making the journey, and in turn are helping others follow in their footsteps, migration experts say.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1U01A4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianv2 View Post
    Yes they get plane tickets.
    Rising migration restrictions are driving African refugees into the hands of Latin American smugglers
    In 2016, Brazilian Federal Police uncovered a smuggling network operating between Brazil and South Africa that delivered fake visas to Africans seeking to travel through Latin America to the United States or Canada. The documents allowed migrants to enter Brazil, Bolivia or Venezuela without getting arrested.

    Abdifatah Hussein Ahmed, a Brazil-based South African national ran the operation with two partners, and after a joint investigation with the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Ahmed was arrested in August 2019 for human trafficking.

    Details of the smuggling enterprise were made public as part of a nine-month investigation by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, the Latin American Center for Investigative Journalism and 16 media outlets from across the world, including The Museba Project, an independent investigative reporting organization covering Central Africa and the Great Lakes. The investigation exposed two top human smuggling organizations in Latin America and their global operations helping migrants from Asia and Africa seeking refuge in the US or Canada.
    https://qz.com/africa/1882848/africa...s-route-to-us/


    As more Africans learn from relatives and friends who have made the trip that crossing Latin America to the United States is tough but not impossible, more are making the journey, and in turn are helping others follow in their footsteps, migration experts say.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1U01A4
    Make sense. Also i feel i might have read that article before.

    I wonder why can't EU do the same thing that is cooperating with African or middle east governments to arrest those who are smuggling african or mena migrants to Europe?

    Also why can't Italy arrest NGOs who help migrants from med?

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    How many refugees should my country take in solidarity with the other members of the European Union?


    None."


    Undoubtedly, a great drama is unfolding in Kabul. Undoubtedly, those in need must be helped. The only question is who is responsible for the "problems that have arisen" and where the inevitable refugees are going. So who pays the bill? With very few exceptions, all large-scale conflicts, no matter where in the world, are a consequence of a) colonization and / or b) globalization. Colonization is stealing from the poorer or more naive raw materials for one's own use, and globalization means not only that all the raw materials in the world belong to the stronger player, but at the same time the weaker one is forced to buy his products. At the first stage, globalization is imposed through beautiful advertising campaigns that create the desired need, but if that doesn't work, they stop the disobedient: ) a new strong leader, if there is temporarily no aristocratic option or if neither a) nor b) does not work, there is always the option: c) arm a gang of kalpazani, Option c) is not preferable because it leads to an insolvent local market, but at least will allow the raw materials to be taken for nothing. This is the whole scheme. Nothing more and nothing less.
    More stressful is that we are not even allowed to raise the question of whether there is anything wrong with this whole practice. It is accepted that globalization is good for everyone. And if you don't want to? Then you are a complete idiot. Outsider. Anti system. Antivaxer. Communist, Nazi, Taliban or Terrorist.


    Let's go back to the refugees. Refugees are people fleeing countries where a) representatives of globalists "create a new Western order" or b) a gang of active citizens have decided that they want to be left alone and other (countries) to respect their culture, their faith and their morality. Whether this always fits our standards is another question, but the biggest mistake of a white man, apart from striving to subdue everyone more colorful than him, is to sincerely believe that everyone wants to live like him. About 30 million people live in Afghanistan. The Taliban have a lot of fans, otherwise they could not take over the whole country in a few weeks. But let's say that 5 million Afghans do not recognize their ideology. 5 Million Afghans scattered in a dozen "successful" Western countries, including America, are a drop in the ocean. There are people in need. You have to help. Undoubtedly, but WHO exactly to help? I can list a whole list of countries whose start-up capital is entirely the result of their colonial past and whose large corporations reap billions from globalization every year: the most successful business model of all time. The responsibility to take care of the refugees is FULLY of the countries on this list, and my homeland is not on it.
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