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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    I need to to look more into Peron and his government (which all I know is that it was a very popular and nationalistic government), but I guess that kind of.
    So would you say Perez Jimenez was corporatist/third positionist then? Major industries and services were wholly or partially nationalised, while agriculture and small companies were kept private. (Or something along those lines).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    So would you say Perez Jimenez was corporatist/third positionist then? Major industries and services were wholly or partially nationalised, while agriculture and small companies were kept private. (Or something along those lines).
    Yes, I think the doctrine of his government "El Nuevo Ideal Nacional" consisted on something along those lines.

    Another benign "dictatorship" that you could add to the list is the Venezuelan government of Isaias Medina Angarita (1941-1945). Though his government was technically a military government (since he was a military guy whose government was part of a succession of Venezuelan military governments), his government favored more liberties to the Venezuelan political life. In some way, he is considered like a precursor of Venezuelan democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Yes, I think the doctrine of his government "El Nuevo Ideal Nacional" consisted on something along those lines.

    Another benign "dictatorship" that you could add to the list is the Venezuelan government of Isaias Medina Angarita (1941-1945). Though his government was technically a military government (since he was a military guy whose government was part of a succession of Venezuelan military governments), his government favored more liberties to the Venezuelan political life. In some way, he is considered like a precursor of Venezuelan democracy.
    From what I gather, the most controversial of Venezuela's military leaders was Juan Vicente Gomez, because in addition to his authoritarianism he basically let American corporations take over Venezuela's entire oil industry. Is that right?

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    Any further opinions, especially my proposed addition of Spain's Miguel Primo de Rivera to the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    From what I gather, the most controversial of Venezuela's military leaders was Juan Vicente Gomez, because in addition to his authoritarianism he basically let American corporations take over Venezuela's entire oil industry. Is that right?
    I think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    I think so.
    Do you have any particularly marked opinions about him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Do you have any particularly marked opinions about him?
    I know he built the first extensive road network in Venezuela (before that, Venezuela was a very agrarian country with very poor and deficient communications). During his government he didn't live in Caracas, like all other Venezuelan presidents, but preferred to establish his residence in Maracay, which was something very eccentric from his part. He was very authoritarian, but he was like an older version of Perez Jimenez, in the sense that he started like a first stage of modernization of the country, so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    I know he built the first extensive road network in Venezuela (before that, Venezuela was a very agrarian country with very poor and deficient communications). During his government he didn't live in Caracas, like all other Venezuelan presidents, but preferred to establish his residence in Maracay, which was something very eccentric from his part. He was very authoritarian, but he was like an older version of Perez Jimenez, in the sense that he started like a first stage of modernization of the country, so to speak.
    The difference being that Perez Jimenez had a more state socialist element to his policies, in contrast to the very pro-business/corporations Gomez, didn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    The difference being that Perez Jimenez had a more state socialist element to his policies, in contrast to the very pro-business/corporations Gomez, didn't he?
    I think Perez Jimenez was also very pro-business, maybe in a different way, since he greatly promoted European immigration (Gomez, Lopez Contreras and Medina Angarita, also did it, but it was greater during Perez Jimenez government), and many of those immigrants built their own businesses. He also tried to diversify the Venezuelan economy and was very in favor of free market. He didn't nationalize the oil industry, that was still in the hands of foreign corporations. The nationalization of oil industry was done during the pseudo-democratic era after Perez Jimenez.
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