Mycenean Greek, how much do you understand?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

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Special Thanks to Iwannhs o Rwssos words written in Linear B and latinized, by John Chadwick's book and another book called "Mycenaean Greek in modern English MYCENEAN GREEK Region: Southern Balkans/Crete Era: 16th–12th century BC Language family: Indo-European (Hellenic) Mycenaean Greek is the most ancient attested form of the Greek language, on the Greek mainland and Crete in Mycenaean Greece (16th to 12th centuries BC), before the hypothesised Dorian invasion, often cited as the terminus ad quem for the introduction of the Greek language to Greece.

The language is preserved in inscriptions in Linear B, a script first attested on Crete before the 14th century BC. Most inscriptions are on clay tablets found in Knossos, in central Crete, as well as in Pylos, in the southwest of the Peloponnese. Other tablets have been found at Mycenae itself, Tiryns and Thebes and at Chania, in Western Crete.[1] The language is named after Mycenae, one of the major centres of Mycenaean Greece.

The tablets long remained undeciphered, and many languages were suggested for them, until Michael Ventris deciphered the script in 1952. The texts on the tablets are mostly lists and inventories. No prose narrative survives, much less myth or poetry.
Still, much may be glimpsed from these records about the people who produced them and about Mycenaean Greece, the period before the so-called Greek Dark Ages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycenae... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_B Please feel free to subscribe to see more of this. I hope you have a great day! Stay happy! Please support me on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/user?u=16809442. Please support me on Ko-fi https://ko-fi.com/otipeps0124 If you are interested to see your native language/dialect to be featured here. Submit your recordings to crystalsky0124@gmail.com. Looking forward to hearing from you!

[Faklon]

Guy sounds like a Japanese Samurai, otherwise almost all of the numbers and words.

Sample text is confusing though.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Joseph Kolodziejski

hace 17 horas (editado)

Just a small heads up here - the Linear B's script is known to be phonetically defective: - not including S's in S-type consonant clusters such as "sp" or "ks" typical of Greek, - only unvoiced sounds (p t k not distinguished from (b d, g ) - not including final s's occasionally - not including initial h sounds (marked over vowel in Ancient/Koine Greek) - Generally if a vowel is repeated, it's a sign of a consonant cluster.

- No distinction between /r/ and /l/ The Greek spelling shows the suspected correct consonant makeup when it is shown, be aware that that IS the suspected spelling not just Modern or Ancient Greek - it contains the digamma, or F-like symbol, which is a /w/ sound.

For examples, the numbers 3-9 are suspected as follows: 3 - ti-ri-si = just /tris/ and probably not /trisi/, as no IE language shows "-s[frontal vowel]" on the end of 3. 4 - qe-to-ro = /kʷetoros/ or /qetoros/ if you like the "uvular kʷ" phoneme theory.

Particularly close to Latin "QVATTVOR" /kʷat:wor/ or /kuat:uor/ depending on interpretation. Note that ancient Greek is quite different - "tettares," or "tesseres" for Attic vs Ionic. 5 - pe-ne-te = /pente/ 6 - ek = /heks/ 7 - epeta = /hepta/ 8 - okoto = /okto/ 9 - enea = /ennea/ although some very old Greek varieties show /ennewa/ from PIE /(h)(ə)newn(a)/ like Latin "NOVEM" /nowem/

[Dianatomia]

Most numbers and the majority of the words are similar, but not entirely identical. When you create a sentence it's difficult to grasp. The differences add up and it's not intelligible any more. No chance understanding the audio, reading makes a little more sense. You can see it's the same language, but you need to dig deep to make something out of it. Let's not forget that the Mycenaeans were using a different alphabet.

Mycenaean is too old. When reading, however, Koine Greek is intelligible for the most part. Which is actually pretty cool, being able to understand an Ancient language. However, when spoken I can only understand most of it if a modern Greek accent is used.

[catgeorge]

Koine Greek is straight forward to understand

Mycenean Greek is transition between Linear B and Greek Alphabet. Thats very old language and can only understand some numbers and words.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

bump

[wvwvw]

A thread of mine from 2016:

Proof that ancient Greek was pronounced like modern Greek
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-modern-Greek