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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári View Post
    There is no problem that you put them into Baltic and CEE categories, but the main goal for me was the REGIONAL percentages like currently 23andMe did.
    I get your intention and its all fine, but then I get too high Balkan results due to my close autosomal proximity to Slovenes - like on 23andme - where even some Czech get quite high Balkan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári View Post
    Great results!
    Can you run your mom's and dad's coordinates too?
    Without your mom's results, are the results good or not so accurate?
    I had to tune the calc to be more precise for me by eliminating Scandinavian and Greek and Balkan, it wanted to split my ancestry mostly between those two plus some minor African. Once I cleared all of that out, I can target a more realistic result.

    Here is my mother's results:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.6867% / 0.00686657
    48.2 British_Irish
    20.8 Greek_Balkan
    15.6 Scandinavian
    10.2 French_German
    1.6 Sardinian
    1.2 Spain_Portugal
    1.0 Filipino_Austronesian
    0.6 Nigerian
    0.6 North_African
    0.2 African_Hunter_Gatherer

    Now let me eliminate some things from the SOURCE and focus the result a bit:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.8006% / 0.00800581
    49.0 French_German:French_North
    44.0 French_Germanutch
    7.0 Eastern_European:Hungarian

    ^^^ This is pretty good, the French_North and Dutch reference behave as a proxy for her West German + minor English ancestry. She also scores a little Hungarian, probably from many years of kissing my father (joke )

    If I use only German and English in SOURCE (which should work well in theory), she does not get an accurate result. It seems the G25 German average is too Eastern-shifted for her, there must be a number of Central/Eastern Germans built into the average. She scores way to much English:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.9412% / 0.00941157
    57.2 French_German:German
    42.8 British_Irish:English

    Me and my mom tested, but my father never did. Kaspias made me scaled coords for him, but not unscaled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári View Post
    Great restults.
    But, Do i made this that bad?
    I worked three-four hours to do this. I followed the regions of 23andMe correctly...
    I know that their Eastern Europe category is very broad.
    Please don't feel offened,I like yu as a member and I really appreciate your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    Please don't feel offened,I like yu as a member and I really appreciate your work.
    Thank you! No problem and i understand why you put these two here. 23andMe definitely should work on their Eastern European category since it's a big category.
    They should have for example a region for Baltics, East Slavs, West Slavs and a separate Pannonian one like Living Dna have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    I had to tune the calc to be more precise for me by eliminating Scandinavian and Greek and Balkan, it wanted to split my ancestry mostly between those two plus some minor African. Once I cleared all of that out, I can target a more realistic result.

    Here is my mother's results:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.6867% / 0.00686657
    48.2 British_Irish
    20.8 Greek_Balkan
    15.6 Scandinavian
    10.2 French_German
    1.6 Sardinian
    1.2 Spain_Portugal
    1.0 Filipino_Austronesian
    0.6 Nigerian
    0.6 North_African
    0.2 African_Hunter_Gatherer

    Now let me eliminate some things from the SOURCE and focus the result a bit:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.8006% / 0.00800581
    49.0 French_German:French_North
    44.0 French_Germanutch
    7.0 Eastern_European:Hungarian

    ^^^ This is pretty good, the French_North and Dutch reference behave as a proxy for her West German + minor English ancestry. She also scores a little Hungarian, probably from many years of kissing my father (joke )

    If I use only German and English in SOURCE (which should work well in theory), she does not get an accurate result. It seems the G25 German average is too Eastern-shifted for her, there must be a number of Central/Eastern Germans built into the average. She scores way to much English:

    Target: Mr.G_Mom
    Distance: 0.9412% / 0.00941157
    57.2 French_German:German
    42.8 British_Irish:English

    Me and my mom tested, but my father never did. Kaspias made me scaled coords for him, but not unscaled.
    Oh! I thought you have his unscaled coordinates. I am sorry i didn't know that.

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    Target: Gallop
    Distance: 1.1338% / 0.01133794
    79.8 French_German
    6.2 Iranian_Caucasian_Mesopotamian
    5.0 North_African
    4.0 Siberian
    3.6 Somali
    1.2 Sardinian
    0.2 Japanese

    Target: Gallop
    Distance: 1.1916% / 0.01191609 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    74.2 French_German
    12.0 Spain_Portugal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Target: Gallop
    Distance: 1.1338% / 0.01133794
    79.8 French_German
    6.2 Iranian_Caucasian_Mesopotamian
    5.0 North_African
    4.0 Siberian
    3.6 Somali
    1.2 Sardinian
    0.2 Japanese

    Target: Gallop
    Distance: 1.1916% / 0.01191609 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    74.2 French_German
    12.0 Spain_Portugal
    5.4 Iranian_Caucasian_Mesopotamian
    4.6 Somali
    3.8 Siberian
    Wow! You have a higher amount of Siberian/Mongoloid as a Spanish!
    Do you have any Amerindian ancestor maybe? Or do you have any idea where it came from?

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    [QUOTE=Gergő Marosvári; ...and a separate Pannonian one like Living Dna have.[/QUOTE]

    If they can make it work reliably GREAT, cause I'm sick of me getting results like 50%Estonian + 50%Spanish.
    The problem I see is that nothing really peaks in Pannonia so it must be like component A within a certain range in combination with component B within a certain range etc.
    I suppose that some of the suspiciously high Balkan results on 23andme of me, and even much more so of some Czechs, are due to a combination of "Slavic" and "Greek" and "Med" that count as "Balkan" resulting in too high Balkan results.

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    ELITE NORMAN RULING CLASS--PAUPERIZING THE SAXONS SINCE 1066 AD !

    Target: Kevin
    Distance: 1.8944% / 0.01894371 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    87.6 Scandinavian:Norwegian
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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    If they can make it work reliably GREAT, cause I'm sick of me getting results like 50%Estonian + 50%Spanish.
    The problem I see is that nothing really peaks in Pannonia so it must be like component a withina certain range + Component be within a certain range etc.
    I suppose that some of the suspiciously high Balkan results on 23andme of me, and even much more so of some Czechs, are due to a combination of "Slavic" and "Greek" and "Med" that count as "Balkan" resulting in too high Balkan results.
    How much Greek and Balkan do you have on your 23andMe results? I have 12% and it gave me one region (country): Romania.
    But from there I only got Transylvanian and Moldva counties. I didn't get any counties from "Wallachia".

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