Montenegro rocked by violent clashes over church independence

[ixulescu]

It's true though. There is a constant tug of war between parties and politicians in order to gain more support from the church and indirectly get more voters. Without any ties to the church, you're irrelevant as a politician.

That's a dangerous game they're playing there. In my country, the Church does not give support to any politician. It can happen that in some village the local priest to speak in support of a politician during elections, but that's against the word of the Patriarch, and people know that.

[Arūnas]

please tell them that they can take quarrels and fights here on TA

[Varda]

Modern Serbian orthodox Church was re-established in 1920, when Montenegro was already annexed by Serbia.
Thing with orthodox countries is that one can't be fully sovereign without own orthodox Church.

That is why all of this is about and why Serbian church also denies Macedonian orthodox church.

However, when it comes to Montenegro it's a funny circus. Fun to watch inter-Serb schism.

It is a formality.
Serbian Orthodox Church in reality is established in 1219 by Saint Sava https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...9%E2%80%931346
SOC changed several seats through history Žiča, Peć, Sremski Karlovci and finally Belgrade. Official tittle of Serbian Patriarch is Archibishop of Peć, Mitropolit of Belgrade and Karlovci and Serbian Partiarch.

There was no any occupation of Montenegro by Serbia in 1918. Montenegro disappeared/capitulated in 1916 with Austro-Hungarian occupation, government and king Nikola fled the country. In 1918 formally legal Montenegro doesn't existed.

[Laku]

The church is only tied to state and this state is called the empire of God, amen.

Which state because there are two?

[Dušan]

It is a formality.
Serbian Orthodox Church in reality is established in 1219 by Saint Sava https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...9%E2%80%931346

Thanks to our Serbian Orthodox Church, we have survived as a people and a nation through the centuries.
When Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina were occupied by the Muslim Ottoman empire, when a large part of our people lived as a minority in the Catholic Habsburg Empire, the Church preserved our identity.

[Varda]

Orthodox believers in Podgorica shout "vladiko sokole", it means "bishop, you a are falcon" (refers to the bishop Joanikije). Montenegrin prime minister Zdravko Krivokapić was present there.

[Varda]

Thanks to our Serbian Orthodox Church, we have survived as a people and a nation through the centuries.
When Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina were occupied by the Muslim Ottoman empire, when a large part of our people lived as a minority in the Catholic Habsburg Empire, the Church preserved our identity.

Without Serbian Orthodox Church vast majority if not all Serbs in Ottoman empire would become Muslims, and in Habsburg Monarchy and Republic of Venice Catholics.
Significant part of Serbs in these states/empires converted on Islam and Catholicism, but majority stayed Orthodox.

[Dušan]

Nice song: Orthodoxy shines in Montenegro

[Voskos]

Typical Balkanite bros. I'd be worried if they didn't contest.

[Bigby]

That's a dangerous game they're playing there. In my country, the Church does not give support to any politician. It can happen that in some village the local priest to speak in support of a politician during elections, but that's against the word of the Patriarch, and people know that.

I hope that you're talking about USA, here, in ROMANIA, the church is openly supporting the socialistic party PSD(the party for proletarian government workers, beggars, gipsies, churchgoers etc..).

And the patriarch is an ex-securist big PSD shill, he's always openly supported PSD at all the parliament and presidential elections, not to mention that at those the priests in the church openly preach to vote PSD.
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