Are iberians closer to British Isles Celtic people or Italians?

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According to him, paleo-atlantid and atlantid are the most common phenotype found in Iberians. At least Atlanto-Med it is common in Iberia but not Atlantid LOL.

Celtic pride.

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[Avgvstvs]

Yes now it is and it is possible that there never was a genetic Celtic population because the Romans called many disperse tribes Celtic. I just don't know and hopefully genetic studies will be published with more genomes in the future. I'm as confused as I ever was about the Celts. I'd be happy to go along with whatever the studies say. I think the Gauls have a good claim on the Celtic homeland. I just call Irish Gaels instead of the more inclusive Celtic name because Gaels is factual and also just includes the Irish, Manx, and some Scots.

Celtic, Germanic, Semitic....all linguistical and cultural terms that per se mean nothing in genetic and phenotypical field.

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[Grace O'Malley]

Celtic pride.

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The Celts went everywhere. There was Celts in places like the Czech Republic for instance. The ones that marched through Greece and then on to Turkey were Gauls. Brennus was their Leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brennu...f_the_Senones)

I'm sure some of these Gauls also went to Britain and Ireland and other places as well. They also went to North Italy so I think the Gauls are the original Celts. I think this is logical but there has been talk about studies coming out about the Celts but none have appeared yet.

[Grace O'Malley]

Celtic, Germanic, Semitic....all linguistical and cultural terms that per se mean nothing in genetic and phenotypical field.

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Semitic is Middle Eastern so there is some genetics attached to that. I also think there is a Germanic and Celtic genetic population originally but now it is a bit murky. Germanics and Celtic people were most probably closely related at any rate. There will be studies coming out in the future so I'd wait for some of these.

[Sasaolo68]

Celtic, Germanic, Semitic....all linguistical and cultural terms that per se mean nothing in genetic and phenotypical field.

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Yeah, true, there is no such thing as a Semitic or Celtic phenotype, even when you had some overlap between Celtic tribes and Iberians, the Iberians were still mostly Mediterranean in their phenotypes, plus Celts weren't from a single ethnic group...

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[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, true, there is no such thing as a Semitic or Celtic phenotype, even when you had some overlap between Celtic tribes and Iberians, the Iberians were still mostly Mediterranean in their phenotypes, plus Celts weren't from a single ethnic group...

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Using terms like Atlantid etc gives me a headache. Why do people persist with this old worldly nonsense? It's a load of codswallop but many people are very attached to the old anthropology.

[Sasaolo68]

Using terms like Atlantid etc gives me a headache. Why do people persist with this old worldly nonsense? It's a load of codswallop but many people are very attached to the old anthropology.

Most of terms that are used here aren't even accurate at all and are mostly pseudoscience LMAO, most of these phenotypes are quite Nordicist to some extent.
That is the reason why you have those New Worlders trolls claiming being closer to bRiTS and ScOtS than to Mediterraneans to feel more "Nordic" which is sad IMO and it shouldn't represent Latin Americans.

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Using terms like Atlantid etc gives me a headache. Why do people persist with this old worldly nonsense? It's a load of codswallop but many people are very attached to the old anthropology.

Phenotypical differences are easy to see, but categorizing them, that is not as easy. That's why it is pseudo science and because there are discussion over even the actual existance of certain phenos.

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Yeah, true, there is no such thing as a Semitic or Celtic phenotype, even when you had some overlap between Celtic tribes and Iberians, the Iberians were still mostly Mediterranean in their phenotypes, plus Celts weren't from a single ethnic group...

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Indeed, at best you can make a list of the most common phenos you find among the folks that NOWADAYS are considered Celtic(language & culture), but nothing more than that.

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[Avgvstvs]

The Celts went everywhere. There was Celts in places like the Czech Republic for instance. The ones that marched through Greece and then on to Turkey were Gauls. Brennus was their Leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brennu...f_the_Senones)

I'm sure some of these Gauls also went to Britain and Ireland and other places as well. They also went to North Italy so I think the Gauls are the original Celts. I think this is logical but there has been talk about studies coming out about the Celts but none have appeared yet.

Indeed, they(and i say "they" because they were diverse tribes) were everywhere.

If we don't define things, i could say also most of Northern Italy is Celtic, since Gallo-Italic dialects are spoken, was called Cisalpine Gaul and the tribes were there before the Romans came.

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