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Thread: Do you think that China and Russia in the future can surpass the United States militarily?

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    China will never have the Navy the U.S. has. Also, transporting all those men and their equipment is going to be an issue for China. Their power projection is very limited despite the great strides they have made. Someone said Russia is a top economic power. I would say gross exaggeration but they were playing geopolitical chess very well especially with the Nord Stream projects. The U.S. realized this and shut NS 2 down. I believe it hurt Germany as much as Russia. Right now there is a big geopolitical mess that needs to sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    China yes, i think our kids should learn chinese instead of english. 40 years later if Apricity is still exist, everyone will use the chinese language.
    China is on the way to colapse , we have no reason to expect them becoming the worlds biggest stable economic superpower, much less the cultural, the chinese government is hiding all the problems well, theyr depleading natural resources, desertification , much below replacement level birth rates (0.5) , a population depleted of basic living conditions and of any uniting spiritual believe system, the list goes on these are just the ones i could pull out my memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    I think the same thing but with a different approach. There will be a strong resistance againts Chinese, which was not the case during Anglo-Saxon expansion. The only thing which makes me think carefully is if Usa becomes a black-majority country, Chinese could be seen as a better option.
    US black population is stable tho. It is Latinos who could become long term majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    China will never have the Navy the U.S. has. Also, transporting all those men and their equipment is going to be an issue for China. Their power projection is very limited despite the great strides they have made. Someone said Russia is a top economic power. I would say gross exaggeration but they were playing geopolitical chess very well especially with the Nord Stream projects. The U.S. realized this and shut NS 2 down. I believe it hurt Germany as much as Russia. Right now there is a big geopolitical mess that needs to sort itself out.
    Satellite images show China has built mock-ups of US warships

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Who knows? Nobody thought in the 13. century that english will be the dominant language in the world. Many people learn the chinese language their number will be more year by year. But it will not happens in our life i think.
    Maybe. But also important difference, if everything goes as you predict, Chinese language is much harder than English to learn, so it will be nearly impossible for many average people.

    Not to mention writing, with which Chinese themselves struggle with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Übermensch View Post
    China will never surpass USA, but Russia already did.
    At this very moment Russia is the strongest country in the world, both military and economically,
    China's strenght is just due to her massive demography, they lack natural resoucres (Oil,Gas,Metals,Woods etc), Russia has huge natural resources and has the most advanced military technology in the world.
    Russian nominal GPD is low just because Russian central bank keep artificial the russian currency low.
    For the record, all chinese's military technology comes from Russia.
    However in this moment Russia and China are allied against USA.
    This is pure nonsense, not a single sentence is even close to true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongio View Post
    China is on the way to colapse , we have no reason to expect them becoming the worlds biggest stable economic superpower, much less the cultural, the chinese government is hiding all the problems well, theyr depleading natural resources, desertification , much below replacement level birth rates (0.5) , a population depleted of basic living conditions and of any uniting spiritual believe system, the list goes on these are just the ones i could pull out my memory.
    Western liberal economists are saying that China is on the verge of collapse since 1949, no one believes in them anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Western liberal economists are saying that China is on the verge of collapse since 1949, no one believes in them anymore.
    I'm not basing my claim in neoliberal econômic beliefs, you are making a strawman, China is not the power it sells itself as, their govs number one priority is improving and keeping their image. If not a econômic and social colapse its for sure something big is going to happen on china sooner or later , just looking at their birth rates can give us an idea, tho as they are covered up in lies It becomes dificult tô predict what exactly will happen.

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    Russia couldn't surpass the Boy Scouts of America.

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