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    Default CAN YOU EVALUATE THIS RESULT?

    Gedrosia-9.29
    Siberian-2.92
    NW African-0.42
    SE Asian-0.26
    Atlantic Med-22.94
    North European-27.2
    South Asian-0.7
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    Half Balkan Turk from Bulgaria + Serb (I guess).

    Distance to: OrhanU
    4.17238541 Turk_Deliorman
    4.63779042 Turk_Trakya
    5.78121095 Turk_Makedonya
    6.57591819 Moldovan_Gagauz
    7.45282497 Bulgarian_Thrace
    7.71173132 Bulgarian_East
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    8.82923553 Greek_Macedonia
    8.97828491 Bulgarian_Central
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    9.28788458 Greek_Thessaly
    9.32453752 Macedonian_Polog
    9.35586982 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    9.38402899 Greek_Thessaloniki
    9.43624396 Pomak_Bulgaria
    9.47482454 Greek_Thrace
    9.49041622 Macedonian_South
    9.72606292 Albanian_Kosovo
    9.92180931 Moldovan_South
    9.92838355 Macedonian_East
    10.19478788 Bulgarian_West
    10.53294831 Greek_Peloponnese
    10.56891196 Romanian
    10.73002330 Albanian
    10.89273152 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain

    Target: OrhanU
    Distance: 3.3661% / 3.36605339 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    55.8 Turk_Deliorman
    22.1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    22.1 Macedonian_Vardar

    Target: OrhanU
    Distance: 1.0908% / 1.09078101 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.9 Italian_Veneto
    22.1 Turk_Deliorman
    21.5 Nogai
    17.0 Macedonian_Vardar
    7.5 Dargin

    Distance to: OrhanU
    2.14941404 32.20% Bavarian_German + 67.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    2.40327783 61.40% Italian_Friuli_VG + 38.60% Nogai
    2.48381585 73.20% Macedonian_Vardar + 26.80% Nogai
    2.51248832 73.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 26.60% Dutch
    2.57546152 28.20% Belgian + 71.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    2.68406147 72.80% Macedonian_Polog + 27.20% Nogai
    2.77615774 74.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.20% English
    2.79880437 75.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.80% English_North
    2.82128093 74.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.60% English_South
    2.85763174 74.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.60% French_Northwest
    2.88298166 75.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.80% German_Northwest
    2.99472310 76.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.20% Danish
    3.05455977 75.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.40% Scottish
    3.09295665 71.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 28.60% French_North
    3.10895670 76.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.80% Irish
    3.12047858 76.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.40% Icelandic
    3.12808858 70.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 29.40% French_Northeast
    3.17054094 63.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 36.40% Hungarian_Transylvania+Szkely
    3.17059335 71.60% Macedonian_East + 28.40% Nogai
    3.17661805 74.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.60% German
    3.22864193 77.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.00% Norwegian
    3.23541288 56.00% Italian_Trentino + 44.00% Nogai
    3.24200617 60.00% Italian_Veneto + 40.00% Nogai
    3.25071852 76.00% Macedonian_Polog + 24.00% Turkmen_Iran
    3.29189411 77.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 22.80% Swedish

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    Known ancestry is Balkan Turk from Bulgaria (Aydos or Aytos).

    May be partly Pomak, but she has no idea about that, she is my friend's grandma.

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    Known ancestry is Balkan Turk from Bulgaria (Aydos or Aytos).

    May be partly Pomak, but she has no idea about that, she is my friend's grandma.

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    Can you provide the kit number?

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    Selamlar, DQ4733110

    I know her very well, she is like my grandma too. bBut what is weird for us for her is, her dialect and some words are really totally different than my own grandma (she was originally from Plovdiv, Sveti Kliment/Okular) and grandpa (Shumen, Şumnu) even if they are all Balkan Turks from Bulgaria.

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    Selamlar, DQ4733110

    I know her very well, she is like my grandma too. bBut what is weird for us for her is, her dialect and some words are really totally different than my own grandma (she was originally from Plovdiv, Sveti Kliment/Okular) and grandpa (Shumen, Şumnu) even if they are all Balkan Turks from Bulgaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrhanU View Post
    Selamlar, DQ4733110

    I know her very well, she is like my grandma too. bBut what is weird for us for her is, her dialect and some words are really totally different than my own grandma (she was originally from Plovdiv, Sveti Kliment/Okular) and grandpa (Shumen, Şumnu) even if they are all Balkan Turks from Bulgaria.
    Selamlar abi.

    To comment on the dialect, there are two groups of Turks in Aydos. The first one is natives and the second one is Turks from Kardzhali who were settled there afterward. Going with the result's itself and matches(considering she has no matches from Kardzhali, and actually have no Turkish matches at all) your friend's grandmother looks like to be a native Turk of Aydos. The dialect she speaks will be intermediate between Deliorman and Thrace whilst your grandfather speaks straightforward Deliorman, and your grandmothers should speak mainstream Rumelian. However, the difference between all these sub-classifications is very low and limited to the usage of a few words and few stress variables. The thing which makes the actual difference is the suffixes in the predicates. And I believe, these are about the actual origin of the village rather than belonging to a dialect group, and interchangeable between those subgroups, popping up randomly all over Balkan Turkish settlements.

    These are 4 common versions in Western Thrace, for example:

    + Yapıyorsun (standart Turkish)
    - Yapisin
    - Yapayı
    - Yaporu
    - Yapiin

    Another research on these suffixes has to be carried out(as it lacks now) to make certain conclusions, until that, I'm not in favor of solely relying on dialects while having conclusions. Except for that, the result is very typical for the Aydos, resembling the Provadia, Varna, Burgas, and Kırklareli results I already had. It is also the first full Turkish result from the Aydos, which makes it actually very valuable from my perspective.

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    Target: Orhan_request
    Distance: 4.0438% / 4.04381799 | ADC: 1x RC
    80.8 Bulgarian_East
    19.2 Turkmen_Iran

    Target: Orhan_request
    Distance: 3.1328% / 3.13276290 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    64.4 Bulgarian_East
    14.3 Albanian
    13.7 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    7.6 Circassian

    Eurogenes k13

    aydosk13,21.2,19.61,14.88,17.57,16.58,1.46,1.26,1. 64,3.98,0.55,0.33,0,0.92

    Target: aydosk13
    Distance: 2.3261% / 2.32611953 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    80.1 Bulgaria_Northeastern
    12.2 Afghan_Turkmen
    7.7 Dargin

    Target: aydosk13
    Distance: 3.4948% / 3.49482513 | ADC: 1x RC
    81.3 Bulgaria_Northeastern
    18.7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan


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    Target: Orhan_request
    Distance: 4.0438% / 4.04381799 | ADC: 1x RC
    80.8 Bulgarian_East
    19.2 Turkmen_Iran

    Target: Orhan_request
    Distance: 3.1328% / 3.13276290 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    64.4 Bulgarian_East
    14.3 Albanian
    13.7 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    7.6 Circassian

    Eurogenes k13

    aydosk13,21.2,19.61,14.88,17.57,16.58,1.46,1.26,1. 64,3.98,0.55,0.33,0,0.92

    Target: aydosk13
    Distance: 2.3261% / 2.32611953 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    80.1 Bulgaria_Northeastern
    12.2 Afghan_Turkmen
    7.7 Dargin

    Target: aydosk13
    Distance: 3.4948% / 3.49482513 | ADC: 1x RC
    81.3 Bulgaria_Northeastern
    18.7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan


    Gedrosia-9.29
    Siberian-0.81
    NW African-0.26
    SE Asian-3.03
    Atlantic Med-18.07
    North European-27.62
    East African-0.08
    SW Asian-9.69
    Caucaus-30.85
    Subsaharan-0.31

    Can you also make this for my results in order to be able to make kind of comparison?

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