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    Default About Turanid influence in Central, Western, Southern Anatolia

    As we know, both Western and Southern Anatolia are autosomally more East Eurasian influenced than Central Anatolia. However, according to my observations, Central Anatolians look more Turanid influenced than both Western and Southern Anatolians. A few days ago, I learned that Central Anatolians are more East Eurasian by haplogroups. My question is, can we say haplogroups and climatic conditions also have influence on phenotype?

    I also included climatic conditions because:
    Central Asia and Central Anatolia: Continental climate
    Western and Southern Anatolia: Mediterranean climate

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    West and South Anatolians look more Turanid influenced than Central Anatolians imo.

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    I really doubt the data from the recent study is enough to claim that Central Anatolians have higher Eurasian-related HGs compared to the West Anatolians. I wouldn't surprise by both options comes out as reality though.

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    Deep ancestry can definitely correlate with East Asian phenotype since phenotype SNPs get preserved for longer period of time than junk SNPs which are mostly used in ancestry calculators. This can explain East Asian phenotypes in Turks as well as Kurds.

    Since haplogroups also correlate with deeper ancestry sometimes there’s correlation with phenotype SNPs.

    I saw this haplogroup map which shows Turks and Kurds have higher North and East Asian haplogroups

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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo View Post
    West and South Anatolians look more Turanid influenced than Central Anatolians imo.
    Interesting. I actually think Western Anatolians are more Alpine and Southern Anatolians are usually more Med while Central Anatolians have more Turanid-like phenotypes but I might be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Interesting. I actually think Western Anatolians are more Alpine and Southern Anatolians are usually more Med while Central Anatolians have more Turanid-like phenotypes but I might be wrong.
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ish-Umut-Bulut

    this guy is from central anatolia btw. you aren't wrong at all. I agree with you. Central anatolians seem turanid influenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I really doubt the data from the recent study is enough to claim that Central Anatolians have higher Eurasian-related HGs compared to the West Anatolians. I wouldn't surprise by both options comes out as reality though.
    I have seen it on Sora’s Turanid paradise thread. Central Anatolia seems the most East Eurasian by Y-DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    I have seen it on Sora’s Turanid paradise thread. Central Anatolia seems the most East Eurasian by Y-DNA.
    I could explain the situation wisely but the last 3 times I have tried it you ignored my posts and kept opening spam threads which directs me to the fact that you might be trolling. So preferring not to spend my time with it now.

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    1. Western Anatolia has a lot more immigrants from different regions (Europe and Eastern Anatolia) than Central Anatolia. Means not everyone from the West automatically is more Turkic than Central Anatolians. I guess if you would make an average out of all people living in West and Central, central Anatolia would be more turkic overall.

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    Central Anatolia has less Meditteranean/Greek influence than western turks, resulting in more looks resembling Turkmens than Western Turks (despite Western turks scoring higher East Asian)

    3. Deep Ancestry could also be a factor (East Anatolia has higher ANE than western Turkey for example). Although this doesnt affect phenotype much imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I could explain the situation wisely but the last 3 times I have tried it you ignored my posts and kept opening spam threads which directs me to the fact that you might be trolling. So preferring not to spend my time with it now.
    Would you say that Y-DNA study also includes non-Turkic groups? If this is the case, then this thread partially loses its validity.

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