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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    What if a region is very mixed? For example region R is composed of people who are 20% A origin, 20% of B origin, 20% of C origin, 20% of C origin and 20% of D origin. Then which of these would be outliers of the region?
    Well, in that case I would consider it a metropolitan region with little to no point of actually making an average for it. Unless the 5 origins are close to each other, then you can just combine them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Some Portuguese and Spaniards have decent amount of North African admixture. Then why are they also included in their regional averages?
    North African ancestry of Spaniards and Portuguese is very decent and dissipated into Spanish and Portuguese populations. On the other hand, Bosniak ancestry is not a norm among Turkish people. This is at least what I have heard from Turkish users in your previous threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    It would be horrible, because of huge genetic ranges. Bosniaks are not ethnic Turks. Drop it.
    It is not horrible. Bosniaks might not be ethnic Turks but one of the groups who are of Turkish nationality. In the future, each ethnic group who are of Turkish nationality and integrated to Turkish society will be one of the ancestral components of our people. Therefore, such study might be useful and interesting in terms of estimating future population genetics of Turkish people.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Well, in that case I would consider it a metropolitan region with little to no point of actually making an average for it. Unless the 5 origins are close to each other, then you can just combine them.
    Such study would show the future genetic structure of the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeton90 View Post
    North African ancestry of Spaniards and Portuguese is very decent and dissipated into Spanish and Portuguese populations. On the other hand, Bosniak ancestry is not a norm among Turkish people. This is at least what I have heard from Turkish users in your previous threads.
    Is North African ancestry among Portuguese and Spaniards really that dissipated? As far as I know, some of them have more than the other Portuguese and Spaniards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Is North African ancestry among Portuguese and Spaniards really that dissipated? As far as I know, some of them have more than the other Portuguese and Spaniards.
    Some of them might have relatively more North African ancestry but it still very decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    It would be horrible, because of huge genetic ranges. Bosniaks are not ethnic Turks. Drop it.
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    Well, in that case I would consider it a metropolitan region with little to no point of actually making an average for it. Unless the 5 origins are close to each other, then you can just combine them.
    Okay, but wouldn’t such study be useful in terms of estimating future population genetics of the region? Since each ethnic group who are of Turkish nationality and integrated into Turkish society will be one of the ancestral components of our people in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Okay, but wouldn’t such study be useful in terms of estimating future population genetics of the region? Since each ethnic group who are of Turkish nationality and integrated into Turkish society will be one of the ancestral components of our people in the future.
    Not really, because it doesn't account for population size, fertility, emigration, age, partner's ethnicity, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Not really, because it doesn't account for population size, fertility, emigration, age, partner's ethnicity, etc.
    Can you please elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Not really, because it doesn't account for population size, fertility, emigration, age, partner's ethnicity, etc.
    Okay, I guess I understand what you mean. These factors might make difference but unless people of both A, B, C, D ancestry claim that they are of X ethnicity. This is why I said “people who claim the predominant ethnicity of the state” in my original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncaz View Post
    Okay, but wouldn’t such study be useful in terms of estimating future population genetics of the region? Since each ethnic group who are of Turkish nationality and integrated into Turkish society will be one of the ancestral components of our people in the future.
    It would be a useful study as far as we assume all immigrations stopped now. However, those results would not be used for Oracle distances on neither GEDmatch nor Vahaduo since most users are interested in their ancestral origin, not comparing themselves with a theoretical population which MIGHT exist in the future.
    Last edited by princeton90; 09-18-2021 at 11:07 AM.

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