Classify atypical Irish politician Mary Lou Mcdonald

[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, genotype >>>> phenotype. People tend to genetically cluster with their countrymen, regardless of their looks. Genetics clarified many of old school anthropology myths.

Yes like a blond Sicilian claiming they got their colouring from the Normans. I've seen people claim that sort of stuff.

[Dick]

Yes like a blond Sicilian claiming they got their colouring from the Normans. I've seen people claim that sort of stuff.

Or the ones claiming they got their big booty from the Moors

[Grace O'Malley]

Very ancient type I guess, zero migrant genes either from kelts, norse or anyone else

I don't think there would be any isolated types. The only population that are distinct in Ireland are the Travellers and that's not because they have different admixture pre Elizabethan times. It is due to about 400 years of drift and consanguinity. You cannot look at someone and be able to tell what historical populations would have contributed to their genetics. After even 1,000 years it would be difficult to preserve or isolate an older genepool. By that I mean that any Irish person would have much the same ancestors. Also if you remember that during the Bronze Age pretty much all of Ireland's neolithic farmers were replaced with Bronze Age invaders you can see why some statements that people make on here are just not accurate. How many times do people claim when looking at someone that they are descended from UP survivors? Do people really believe that?

[JamesBond007]

The interesting thing with that is if someone like Mary Lou McDonald had a dna test she would be like Colin Farrell who before last update on 23&Me got 98.7 British & Irish and would now be 100% British & Irish so they would cluster with all the other Irish. So their genetics are the same as their countrymen and women. Old worldly anthropology is not an indicator of someone's genetics but just knowing someone is long term Irish I could make a very good educated guess of what their genetics would be like.

You don't know what you are talking about she looks Irish and there are regional differences between the physical anthropolgical types. Paleo-Atlantids have always been a small minority of Ireland. Also, if she had a genetic test it could come out Scottish or somewhat Scottish.

Genetics can be manipulated for political reasons since people generally can't verify it in a specialized lab . It is harder to manipulate old world anthropology for political ends because it requires less specialized experience and no you don't have the specialized experience you just have some second hand knowledge that you delusionally makes you think you are an expert.



Irish :

English

^both groups are paleo-altantid but the Irish woman does not look English even though those two Englishmen are from the most 'Irish' influenced part of England -- liverpool -- there are still obvious differences.

[Cristiano viejo]

BERID.

Ah, no, wait, that she is Irish... PALEO ATLANTID THEN, hehehe.

[TheMaestro]

Would honestly guess place like Sicilly or couldn't place her at all.

[Immanenz]

You don't know what you are talking about she looks Irish and there are regional differences between the physical anthropolgical types. Paleo-Atlantids have always been a small minority of Ireland. Also, if she had a genetic test it could come out Scottish or somewhat Scottish.

Genetics can be manipulated for political reasons since people generally can't verify it in a specialized lab . It is harder to manipulate old world anthropology for political ends because it requires less specialized experience and no you don't have the specialized experience you just have some second hand knowledge that you delusionally makes you think you are an expert.



Irish :



English

^both groups are paleo-altantid but the Irish woman does not look English even though those two Englishmen are from the most 'Irish' influenced part of England -- liverpool -- there are still obvious differences.

because those two beatles arent "paleo" Atlantid, they have not really any Cm trait. And Paul passes as Italian, same eyes as Sylvester Stallone.

[Grace O'Malley]

You don't know what you are talking about she looks Irish and there are regional differences between the physical anthropolgical types. Paleo-Atlantids have always been a small minority of Ireland. Also, if she had a genetic test it could come out Scottish or somewhat Scottish.

Genetics can be manipulated for political reasons since people generally can't verify it in a specialized lab . It is harder to manipulate old world anthropology for political ends because it requires less specialized experience and no you don't have the specialized experience you just have some second hand knowledge that you delusionally makes you think you are an expert.



Irish :

English

^both groups are paleo-altantid but the Irish woman does not look English even though those two Englishmen are from the most 'Irish' influenced part of England -- liverpool -- there are still obvious differences.

And the Irish woman has a Scottish surname. The two Englishmen have Irish ancestry.

[Immanenz]

I don't think there would be any isolated types. The only population that are distinct in Ireland are the Travellers and that's not because they have different admixture pre Elizabethan times. It is due to about 400 years of drift and consanguinity. You cannot look at someone and be able to tell what historical populations would have contributed to their genetics. After even 1,000 years it would be difficult to preserve or isolate an older genepool. By that I mean that any Irish person would have much the same ancestors. Also if you remember that during the Bronze Age pretty much all of Ireland's neolithic farmers were replaced with Bronze Age invaders you can see why some statements that people make on here are just not accurate. How many times do people claim when looking at someone that they are descended from UP survivors? Do people really believe that?

Many times what people consider as "Brunn" is pretty much descendant from the more robuster Beaker types like the mentioned Wayne Rooney in the other thread- Ciarán Kilkenny would be a great example of it, also types like Richard Dunne or Stephen Kenny- and many others of course, but this types would be typically described as Kelto Brunn.

[Grace O'Malley]

She's a very articulate women whether you agree with her politics are not. She looks like she has naturally olive skin. Some Irish do. She has pretty robust features. She is from a middle-class background.