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Thread: The Daco-Roman Continuity Theory Makes No Sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    These were semi nomadic Vlach sheperds, they were slavophone, but it is obvious some were Slavicized as they have lot of genuine Vlach blood.
    Herzegovian vlach clans are formed in 14th century, they were ethnic Serbs (one of the Serbian social class).

    Mirilovići for example were one of the vlach katuns. They are recorder first time in East Herzegovina in 1368. in one Ragusan document. In early 16th century (or even 100 years earlier according to Croatian guy Moro) part of them migrated to Drniš area and some modern local Drniš Orthodox and Catholic families are their descendants. Mirlović Polje and Mirlović Zagora near Drniš are named by Mirilovići.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Polje
    https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Zagora
    Last edited by Varda; 09-21-2021 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandis View Post
    We already are aware that some Serbs finds Slavs everywhere in historical times and they very like concept "Autosomal Slav" behind which lies something else.
    They don't like some widely recognized Lithuanian historian and probably also some Russian philologists.
    None of us here promote the pseudo-scientific theories of the so called 'autochtonous school'. I mean, did you hear anyone but Novi Pazar talk about Serbs building Stonehedge and the Pyramids of Giza? Also, Slavic autosomal DNA is not an invention, but a solid fact that has in the past few years been established by archaeogenetics, i. e. the analysis of ancient samples. Belarusians, most Poles, Ukrainians and SW Russians are almost entirely Early Slavic by ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    As I said 100 times, we are proud on both proto-Slavic and Vlach ancestry.
    Ancient Roman heritage in Serbia and Republika Srpska belong to us.

    Unlike some others, who deny Slavic influence on them.
    Whatever, but you can't model yourself accurately like Slavic + Imperial Roman. That would mean you have no any Paleo Balkan blood.
    These old models all exeggerated Slavic and Roman admixture in Balkans.

    In more realistic ones like one I do on G25 Romanians end up around 40% early Slavic, and Serbs around 50% with both scoring significant Balkan and not just Roman.
    All in all their Slavic/Vlach percentages are roughly equal with Serbs being more Slav and Romanians being more Vlach.

    There is minor Germanic or Turkic input too, but that is pretty irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    None of us here promote the pseudo-scientific theories of the so called 'autochtonous school'. I mean, did you hear anyone but Novi Pazar talk about Serbs building Stonehedge and the Pyramids of Giza? Also, Slavic autosomal DNA is not an invention, but a solid fact that has in the past few years been established by archaeogenetics, i. e. the analysis of ancient samples. Belarusians, most Poles, Ukrainians and SW Russians are almost entirely Early Slavic by ancestry.
    I will check these ancient samples.
    About most Poles i agree, but i doubt that rest are so unmixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpatz View Post
    Thanks for the weather report rain man .

    I'm completely unrelated to Servs, I'm a Vlach superman with a big cock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Herzegovian vlach clans are formed in 14th century, they were ethnic Serbs (one of the Serbian social class).

    Mirilovići for example were one of the vlach katuns. They are recorder first time in East Herzegovina in 1368. in one Ragusan document. In early 16th century (or even 100 years earlier according to Croatian guy Moro) part of them migrated to Drniš area and some modern local Drniš Orthodox and Catholic families are their descendants. Mirlović Polje and Mirlović Zagora near Drniš are named by Mirilovići.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Polje
    https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Zagora
    Btw y dna of Mirilovići (Мириловићи) "vlachs" is Slavic I2-CTS10228>Z17855>PH3414 https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=300.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Herzegovian vlach clans are formed in 14th century, they were ethnic Serbs (one of the Serbian social class).

    Mirilovići for example were one of the vlach katuns. They are recorder first time in East Herzegovina in 1368. in one Ragusan document. In early 16th century (or even 100 years earlier according to Croatian guy Moro) part of them migrated to Drniš area and some modern local Drniš Orthodox and Catholic families are their descendants. Mirlović Polje and Mirlović Zagora near Drniš are named by Mirilovići.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Polje
    https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirlović_Zagora
    Mirea is a typical surname in Wallachia. So those are Vlachs

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    None of us here promote the pseudo-scientific theories of the so called 'autochtonous school'. I mean, did you hear anyone but Novi Pazar talk about Serbs building Stonehedge and the Pyramids of Giza? Also, Slavic autosomal DNA is not an invention, but a solid fact that has in the past few years been established by archaeogenetics, i. e. the analysis of ancient samples. Belarusians, most Poles, Ukrainians and SW Russians are almost entirely Early Slavic by ancestry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandis View Post
    I will check these ancient samples.
    About most Poles i agree, but i doubt that rest are so unmixed.
    None of modern Slavic groups is fully early (Balto)Slav. Belarusians come close but even they have some minor other admix.
    Poles have minor Germanic and southern Russians even some Finnic because they descend from people from further north that settled these lands after Russo-Turkish wars. Ukrainians aren't pure early Slav either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Mirea is a typical surname in Wallachia. So those are Vlachs
    Mirilović clan got that name by their ancestor founder duke Mirilo who lived in 14th century. Mirilo is old Serbian name of Slavic origin - came from Serbian word mir which means peace.
    According to legend older surname/patronym of Mirilovići was Rajković https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajković
    One branch of Mirilović clan in the late middle age rose to the levels of nobility.
    Descendants of Mirilovići today exist among Serbs, and among Bosniak and Croatians in smaller numbers (Mirilovići who converted to Islam and Catholicism) in the past.
    They exist under the various surnames, original surnames Mirilović/Mirilo preserved mostly some Krajina Serb families
    https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Mirilovi%C4%87/
    https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Mirilo/
    Last edited by Varda; 09-21-2021 at 05:37 PM.

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