How much Kangju, Wusun and Sarmatian ancestry do Tajiks- Pamiris, Yaghnobis have?

[Dr_Maul]

Do you think there is medieval Indian admixture in Tajiks? What would be the best Bronze Age proxy for Indian? I'm less interested in later cultures as they are pretty much descended from the Bronze Age Steppe herders anyway.

I have to find it again, but I am positive I read about how Hindu slavery mostly during the Timurid and Mughal period strongly affected South Asian genetics in Uzbeks, Tajiks and Uygurs and in Iran.. I don't think anything occurred in the bronze age.

[Leto]

I have to find it again, but I am positive I read about how Hindu slavery mostly during the Timurid and Mughal period strongly affected South Asian genetics in Uzbeks, Tajiks and Uygurs and in Iran.. I don't think anything occurred in the bronze age.

I didn't say they were there in the Bronze Age, I just prefer to use samples from roughly the same period.

[Avicenna]

I have to find it again, but I am positive I read about how Hindu slavery mostly during the Timurid and Mughal period strongly affected South Asian genetics in Uzbeks, Tajiks and Uygurs and in Iran.. I don't think anything occurred in the bronze age.

Wasn't the reason why the hiindu kush range was called Hindu Kush ( Hindu killer ) is because it was known for hindu slaves dying on their way to Turkestan ? Doubt it had much impact , I think it goes way back .

[Dr_Maul]

I didn't say they were there in the Bronze Age, I just prefer to use samples from roughly the same period.

Well in that case there is no such samples. India proper only has Roopkund A (8th century Hindus) and Roopkund B (20th century Europeans). Pakistan has quite a few samples from the Early Iron age / Vedic period, they are pretty much the same as modern Dardic people (the samples are from modern Pashtun regions in Pakistan)

[Dr_Maul]

Wasn't the reason why the hiindu kush range was called Hindu Kush ( Hindu killer ) is because it was known for hindu slaves dying on their way to Turkestan ? Doubt it had much impact , I think it goes way back .

Well many would have died but still hundreds of thousands of Hindu slaves participated in the creation of Uzbekistans Timurid architecture, and in Iran as well. This study also talks about it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02929717302914
Some of it can be attributed to Gypsies as well, although less I would think.

[Avicenna]

Well many would have died but still hundreds of thousands of Hindu slaves participated in the creation of Uzbekistans Timurid architecture, and in Iran as well. This study also talks about it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02929717302914
Some of it can be attributed to Gypsies as well, although less I would think.

Couldn't find anything regrading central Asia but were you referring to this ?

"while in Iranian_B we infer admixture dated to 1418 CE (1194–1558 CE) from a Pakistan-like source that falls into the period of the Timurid Empire (1370–1507 CE) that extended into present-day Pakistan.70 "

Besides , wouldn't ydna reflect this upscale admixture with Hindu slaves ?

[Avicenna]

Well many would have died but still hundreds of thousands of Hindu slaves participated in the creation of Uzbekistans Timurid architecture, and in Iran as well. This study also talks about it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02929717302914
Some of it can be attributed to Gypsies as well, although less I would think.

Couldn't find anything regrading central Asia but were you referring to this ?

"while in Iranian_B we infer admixture dated to 1418 CE (1194–1558 CE) from a Pakistan-like source that falls into the period of the Timurid Empire (1370–1507 CE) that extended into present-day Pakistan.70 "

Besides , wouldn't ydna reflect this upscale admixture with Hindu slaves ?

[Leto]

Well in that case there is no such samples. India proper only has Roopkund A (8th century Hindus) and Roopkund B (20th century Europeans). Pakistan has quite a few samples from the Early Iron age / Vedic period, they are pretty much the same as modern Dardic people (the samples are from modern Pashtun regions in Pakistan)

Any Indus Valley sample? They were South Asians after all.

[Roy]

Well many would have died but still hundreds of thousands of Hindu slaves participated in the creation of Uzbekistans Timurid architecture, and in Iran as well. This study also talks about it
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02929717302914
Some of it can be attributed to Gypsies as well, although less I would think.

When did these Hindu people eventually assimilate? Could it not be explained by the usual slow genetic flow?

[Dr_Maul]

Couldn't find anything regrading central Asia but were you referring to this ?

"while in Iranian_B we infer admixture dated to 1418 CE (1194–1558 CE) from a Pakistan-like source that falls into the period of the Timurid Empire (1370–1507 CE) that extended into present-day Pakistan.70 "

Besides , wouldn't ydna reflect this upscale admixture with Hindu slaves ?

Yes thats what I am referring to. and I think it is reflected a little bit, in terms of H and others although most of Indians haplogroup isn't particularly different from the region in the first place (Steppe and Iran neolithic)