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    Default How much Kangju, Wusun and Sarmatian ancestry do Tajiks- Pamiris, Yaghnobis have?

    I'm pretty ignorant about their genetics and their ethnogenesis but I want to learn more. Are they mainly descendants of Kangju and Wusun with some additional BMAC, Western-Iranian (in the case of Tajiks and Yaghnobis) and some AASI and Khovsgol_BA admixture (the latter in the case of Tajiks and Sarikolis)? Also are Kangju and Wusun related to the Sogdians and Bactrians?

    Are these models accurate? Do Rushan and Shugnan Pamiris actually have that much Kangju ancestry?

    Target: Tajik
    Distance: 1.9434% / 0.01943397
    47.6 KAZ_Kangju
    20.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    17.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    10.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    3.8 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Badakshan
    Distance: 1.6468% / 0.01646753
    65.2 KAZ_Kangju
    20.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    6.2 S_AASI_SimAv
    5.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    2.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Ishkashim
    Distance: 1.5314% / 0.01531388
    64.4 KAZ_Kangju
    26.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    7.8 S_AASI_SimAv
    1.4 UZB_Bustan_BA
    0.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Rushan
    Distance: 1.5277% / 0.01527711
    74.0 KAZ_Kangju
    15.2 UZB_Bustan_BA
    7.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    3.2 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Shugnan
    Distance: 1.2513% / 0.01251254
    71.0 KAZ_Kangju
    15.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    9.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    4.6 S_AASI_SimAv
    0.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Yagnobi
    Distance: 1.7713% / 0.01771289
    61.6 KAZ_Kangju
    23.4 UZB_Bustan_BA
    15.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA

    Target: Sarikoli_China
    Distance: 1.9756% / 0.01975636
    60.6 KAZ_Kangju
    25.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    7.4 S_AASI_SimAv
    6.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Replacing Kangju with Wusun and the fit worsens:

    Target: Tajik
    Distance: 2.1224% / 0.02122369
    50.2 KAZ_Wusun
    28.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    10.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    7.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    3.6 S_AASI_SimAv
    1.0 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Target: Tajik_Badakshan
    Distance: 1.9991% / 0.01999119
    64.8 KAZ_Wusun
    19.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    7.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    4.8 S_AASI_SimAv
    3.0 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Target: Tajik_Ishkashim
    Distance: 1.9892% / 0.01989189
    61.0 KAZ_Wusun
    22.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    7.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    5.6 S_AASI_SimAv
    3.4 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Target: Tajik_Rushan
    Distance: 2.4308% / 0.02430840
    68.2 KAZ_Wusun
    16.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    15.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.8 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Shugnan
    Distance: 1.9472% / 0.01947241
    66.0 KAZ_Wusun
    18.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    13.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    2.4 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Yagnobi
    Distance: 2.6429% / 0.02642927
    53.8 KAZ_Wusun
    31.4 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    14.8 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Target: Sarikoli_China
    Distance: 2.0092% / 0.02009193
    68.4 KAZ_Wusun
    23.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    6.8 S_AASI_SimAv
    1.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    0.4 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Looks like they prefer Kangju to Wusun. Is it because Wusun have more East Eurasian ancestry than Kangju?

    Also you can model using Sarmatians instead of Kangju or Wusun to model Tajiks, Pamiris, Yaghnobis? The fits are also really good surprisingly. Are they also heavily Sarmatian-derived?

    Using Sarmatian_RUS_Urals

    Target: Tajik
    Distance: 1.7848% / 0.01784766
    38.2 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    26.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    11.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    9.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    9.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    4.0 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Badakshan
    Distance: 1.4523% / 0.01452271
    53.2 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    20.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    11.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    6.4 S_AASI_SimAv
    4.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    3.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Ishkashim
    Distance: 1.2656% / 0.01265647
    52.6 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    25.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    8.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    8.0 S_AASI_SimAv
    4.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    1.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Rushan
    Distance: 1.2930% / 0.01293048
    60.6 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    19.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    11.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    4.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    3.6 S_AASI_SimAv
    0.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Shugnan
    Distance: 1.0999% / 0.01099851
    57.0 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    25.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    10.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    4.6 S_AASI_SimAv
    1.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    0.4 UZB_Bustan_BA

    Target: Tajik_Yagnobi
    Distance: 1.6267% / 0.01626683
    49.8 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    25.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    15.8 UZB_Bustan_BA
    8.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Sarikoli_China
    Distance: 1.7011% / 0.01701095
    51.6 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    24.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    9.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    7.4 S_AASI_SimAv
    7.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Replace Sarmatian_RUS_Urals with Sarmatian_Segizsay:


    Target: Tajik
    Distance: 1.7473% / 0.01747340
    38.8 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    26.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    13.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    11.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    6.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    3.6 S_AASI_SimAv

    Target: Tajik_Badakshan
    Distance: 1.4040% / 0.01404039
    53.6 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    16.6 UZB_Bustan_BA
    15.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    5.8 S_AASI_SimAv
    4.8 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    3.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Ishkashim
    Distance: 1.2101% / 0.01210120
    53.2 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    20.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    13.6 UZB_Bustan_BA
    7.4 S_AASI_SimAv
    4.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    1.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Rushan
    Distance: 1.2731% / 0.01273112
    60.8 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    12.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    11.2 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    11.2 UZB_Bustan_BA
    3.0 S_AASI_SimAv
    1.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Shugnan
    Distance: 1.1566% / 0.01156558
    57.0 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    19.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    11.2 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    6.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    4.0 S_AASI_SimAv
    2.2 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Tajik_Yagnobi
    Distance: 1.6354% / 0.01635395
    50.6 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    25.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
    21.2 UZB_Bustan_BA
    2.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA

    Target: Sarikoli_China
    Distance: 1.5255% / 0.01525543
    52.2 Sarmatian_Segizsay
    19.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    13.6 UZB_Bustan_BA
    7.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
    6.8 S_AASI_SimAv

    Please correct me if my models are flawed: that I'm doing it wrong. To reiterate, I'm really ignorant and new to the genetics of this region and the ethnic groups inhabited. Thoughts please?

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    Did you manage to get coordinates for the Tajiks from Jeong? I keep asking about them because I wanna run them through my Central Asian model.

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    Could you run Afghan_pashtun , Pashtun_kabul , Pashtun_North Afghanistan , Pashtun_kandahar and Safi_pakthun Laghman please ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Did you manage to get coordinates for the Tajiks from Jeong? I keep asking about them because I wanna run them through my Central Asian model.
    They're already in G25, if you mean the Tajiks from Jeong. et al. 2019. They're all the samples named just "Tajik" without a suffix for the region.

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    $ curl https://reichdata.hms.harvard.edu/pub/datasets/amh_repo/curated_releases/V44/V44.3/SHARE/public.dir/v44.3_HO_public.anno|grep Tajik|cut -f2,4,8,9,10,11,12|grep Jeong|tr \\t \;
    TJ-0080;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0086;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0091;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-011;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Kyrgyz_Tajikistan;Gorno-Badakhshan region, Murgab district;Tajikistan;38.15;73.95
    TJ-032;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Kyrgyz_Tajikistan;Gorno-Badakhshan region, Murgab district;Tajikistan;38.15;73.95
    TJ-038;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Kyrgyz_Tajikistan;Gorno-Badakhshan region, Murgab district;Tajikistan;38.15;73.95
    TJ-098;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Kyrgyz_Tajikistan;Gorno-Badakhshan region, Murgab district;Tajikistan;38.15;73.95
    TJ-0108;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0155;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0484;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Gissar district;Tajikistan;38.52;68.53
    TJ-0486;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Gissar district;Tajikistan;38.52;68.53
    TJ-0495;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0500;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0517;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0555;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0573;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0574;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Kulyab district;Tajikistan;37.9;69.77
    TJ-0686;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Gissar district;Tajikistan;38.52;68.53
    TJ-0688;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Gissar district;Tajikistan;38.52;68.53
    TJ-0796;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0798;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0807;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0982;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0984;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-0986;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-1032;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    TJ-1041;JeongNatureEcologyEvolution2019;Tajik;Aininsky district;Tajikistan;39.37;68.52
    $ curl 'https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HYrDwxEXv82DvDLoq736pS5ZTGJA4dn5'|grep Tajik:TJ|cut -d, -f1|paste -sd\  -
    Tajik:TJ-0080 Tajik:TJ-0086 Tajik:TJ-0091 Tajik:TJ-0108 Tajik:TJ-0155 Tajik:TJ-0484 Tajik:TJ-0486 Tajik:TJ-0495 Tajik:TJ-0500 Tajik:TJ-0517 Tajik:TJ-0555 Tajik:TJ-0573 Tajik:TJ-0574 Tajik:TJ-0686 Tajik:TJ-0688 Tajik:TJ-0796 Tajik:TJ-0798 Tajik:TJ-0807 Tajik:TJ-0982 Tajik:TJ-0984 Tajik:TJ-0986 Tajik:TJ-1032 Tajik:TJ-1041

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Could you run Afghan_pashtun , Pashtun_kabul , Pashtun_North Afghanistan , Pashtun_kandahar and Safi_pakthun Laghman please ??
    I will. Btw the Tajik_Badakhshan samples are actually from Gorno-Badakhshan, Tajikistan, not from Badakhshan in Far Northern Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Did you manage to get coordinates for the Tajiks from Jeong? I keep asking about them because I wanna run them through my Central Asian model.
    Sorry I will ask them. Preoccupied with too many stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    They're already in G25, if you mean the Tajiks from Jeong. et al. 2019. They're all the samples named just "Tajik" without a suffix for the region.
    Okay, thanks! I will sort them out and rename them properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Could you run Afghan_pashtun , Pashtun_kabul , Pashtun_North Afghanistan , Pashtun_kandahar and Safi_pakthun Laghman please ??
    Please do not quote them as I might have to remove them later as I'm not sure if these samples are privated or not (they weren't added to the G25 spreadsheet so I don't think they are for public use) .

    I will put them in spoilers just for safety. Do not quote please.

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    Overall, they have less Kangju, Wusun, Sarmatian ancestry than Tajiks. Instead, they seem to have more heavily Iranian_Neolithic/BMAC, more AASI and less Mongoloid than the Tajiks.
    Last edited by Zanzibar; 09-19-2021 at 06:01 AM.

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    Yagnobis are a good proxy for Sogdians and Bactrians overall. Added Saidu Sharif H_o as I am sure to have read that Hindu slavery strongly impacted the region genetically. Pamiris seem to be 30+% Wusun/Kangju
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Yagnobis are a good proxy for Sogdians and Bactrians overall. Added Saidu Sharif H_o as I am sure to have read that Hindu slavery strongly impacted the region genetically. Pamiris seem to be 30+% Wusun/Kangju
    [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/xsxc1tm/a.png
    Do you think there is medieval Indian admixture in Tajiks? What would be the best Bronze Age proxy for Indian? I'm less interested in later cultures as they are pretty much descended from the Bronze Age Steppe herders anyway.

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