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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Where? It's in Germany for example, what is the leader dcountry of EU. The german public media isn't free.
    I admit. But the reason is, at least in most western countries, the bad evolution in which left wing people hire left-wing people and the right wing hires right wing people. As a result we have two different media blocks, both spreading lies or telling opinions fitting only with their point of view. The situation is like in USA where CNN and Fox News tell different stories and people watch only either one, but not both. I read UK news and know the phenomenon there. In Finland the main media is now hold by left wing people and they fumigate all not orthodox people. Those people have found several new TV channels. Media fights all the time who can tell "the truth".

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    Pretty irrelevant question. Hungary is governed like bulk of population wants it, and that is it. Terms like "freedom" or "democracy" are meaningless empty phrases.
    It's none of anyone's business what Hungary and Hungarians should do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    I admit. But the reason is, at least in most western countries, the bad evolution in which left wing people hire left-wing people and the right wing hires right wing people. As a result we have two different media blocks, both spreading lies or telling opinions fitting only with their point of view. The situation is like in USA where CNN and Fox News tell different stories and people watch only either one, but not both. I read UK news and know the phenomenon there. In Finland the main media is now hold by left wing people and they fumigate all not orthodox people. Those people have found several new TV channels. Media fights all the time who can tell "the truth".
    Btw i don't want to defend the Orbán system because it has many fault, you can criticise it by valid arguments, for example stealing the EU money, corruption, the fidesz works like a mafia, oligarchs, etc, but i don't see any problem with human rights. As liberal it's very important to me, and Orbán do it very well. The hungarian national soul is pretty unique, basically the peoples need a strong nationalist leader but they also love freedom and human rights (hungarians are legendary freedom fighters) and Orbán's policy is based on this duality, he does not restrain the life of people, you can do what you want.

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    What country is free?

    Am I free for being gunpoint forced to pay taxes?

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    Btw, this is why Hungary feels very free to an outsider like me for example. Hungarians are notoriously individualist, people mind their own business and don't interfere in other's people affairs.



    Yet they have very strong national identity and culture on the other hand. Hungary is truly a fascinating society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    What country is free?

    Am I free for being gunpoint forced to pay taxes?
    Haha, it is so called national agreement.

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    A free country would allow me to have the choice to exclude myself from the society and by that not having to pay taxes anymore. I dont want to fund the welfare for a country and people I deeply feel disgust for and I want to be isolated from it. A truly authoritarian country like Germany doesnt even let you homeschool your kids. Forces you indirectly to get vaccinated and sends people to Prison that refuse to pay for the state media that is purely pushing for a Merkel agenda.
    Id consinder Hungary to be more free.
    Especially since the Hungarian government doesnt interfere in your personal safety by welcoming 1mio foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Haha, it is so called nauional aggreement.
    I individually do not agree with it and by that get influenced in my personal freedom. Id agree to get out of all government social safety nets, but Im not given the option. Thats not freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Btw i don't want to defend the Orbán system because it has many fault, you can criticise it by valid arguments, for example stealing the EU money, corruption, the fidesz works like a mafia, oligarchs, etc, but i don't see any problem with human rights. As liberal it's very important to me, and Orbán do it very well. The hungarian national soul is pretty unique, basically the peoples need a strong nationalist leader but they also love freedom and human rights (hungarians are legendary freedom fighters) and Orbán's policy is based on this duality, he does not restrain the life of people, you can do what you want.
    But you do it constantly, seriously, I never seen on this forum somebody who is so invested in defending his regime as fervently as you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    But you do it constantly, seriously, I never seen on this forum somebody who is so invested in defending his regime as fervently as you do
    The world is not black and white, but more complex. Not everything is bad what Orbán do. I do care about the free market and human rights and this works very well in Hungary. Another fact is Orbán is the most supported prime minister in the whole Europe, an average hungarian is stand with him, because he knows the hungarian national soul, unlike the opposition parties they have no idea about it, because they are just puppets of Brussels.

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