Does the term “Caucasian” only refer to white people, or does or can it refer to Caucasoids overall?

[Homo Insapiens]

Native European\Middle eastern\North African\Central asian\ North Indian are all caucasians and genetically they are all distant relatives.
Modern Europeans have lost much of the melanin that made them the whiter Caucasian group, but you can still find white individual from the MENA region.
Syrians:
https://imgur.com/DLTsGWy
https://imgur.com/UzyGpYD
https://imgur.com/luJ1Vh7
Iraqi:
https://imgur.com/qsaUvBL
https://imgur.com/ENIa2Ca
https://imgur.com/in0CUbx
northern Iraqi:
kurds
https://imgur.com/mtqanAv
yazidis
https://imgur.com/X5DwoBx
https://imgur.com/ZXa94ao
berber (Morocco\algeria):
https://imgur.com/2mlqW5O
https://imgur.com/x8ZouuF
https://imgur.com/BI0RV3J
Afghans:
https://imgur.com/SJUfoOp
https://imgur.com/fkcUE2S
https://imgur.com/qOVNhBL
Yemenis:
https://imgur.com/EsNOJkZ
https://imgur.com/arV99qw
https://imgur.com/bCZUJjh
https://imgur.com/f84uGyw
https://imgur.com/0uumlw7
kalash ppl they can be very blonde:
https://imgur.com/nU1oRwk
https://imgur.com/2zw66b0
https://imgur.com/FTFMggk

I think you mean to say Caucasoids, but Caucasoid or Caucasian, it’s all just a matter of terms or language, but like I said nowadays Caucasian usually refers to just white people, and in a non racial sense the Caucasus region, whereas Caucasoid refers to the broad race, the latter is used much less because people nowadays don’t seem to think in terms of race and usually refer to people by country, ethnicity or region, and the idea of race seems to be increasingly discouraged.

Do you know whether white individuals from MENA are genetically or ethnically white in any way, or whether it’s just lighter skin and hair among isolated individuals?

[Homo Insapiens]

Who are all the white people of non-European descent?

[Blondie]

I think caucasian is a nonsense new worlder term. But the american racial terms were always a joke.

[Veslan]

"White" is super subjective and misleading, everyone can have his own idea on who is "white" and who is not. Some people count Meds as white, others don't. Some even exclude Slavs even though we have mostly Caucasoid skulls and fair skin. Also those who count Meds as White while exclucing MENA people, are super biased because there is absolutely no reason to say that e. g. the Sicilians or the Maltese are White and Pashtuns or Arabs are not.

Caucasoid is a way more objective term because it focuses on cranial features instead of culture and pigmentation.

[mashail]

I think you mean to say Caucasoids, but Caucasoid or Caucasian, it’s all just a matter of terms or language, but like I said nowadays Caucasian usually refers to just white people, and in a non racial sense the Caucasus region, whereas Caucasoid refers to the broad race, the latter is used much less because people nowadays don’t seem to think in terms of race and usually refer to people by country, ethnicity or region, and the idea of race seems to be increasingly discouraged.

Do you know whether white individuals from MENA are genetically or ethnically white, or whether it’s just lighter skin and hair among isolated individuals?

No, the white individuals of the Middle East and North Africa are indigenous people and lighter than the rest and have nothing to do with Europeans usually in cold places such as Syria and northern Iraq and ppl from the mountains in Yemen, Morocco and Pakistan tend to have lighter traits than the rest.
I will give you my family as a good example, my parents are Iraqis and I am also a quarter Egyptian on my mum side , my FTdna results are almost 5% Balkan / 10% Sephardic Spanish which is obivously Jewish and not European, the rest of the dna was very high MENA Levant& The Arabian Peninsula and approximately 10% Armenia/Anatolia/Azerbaijan and 4% Morocco/Algeria.
So my family is literally Middle Eastern and two of my sebilings look European to the point no one in school guessed them as MENA, so yes, in the Middle East and North Africa there can be white individuals without mixing.

[mashail]

Who are all the white people of non-European descent?

Some Jewish\Levantine\kurds\central asian are white and of non European descent.
but still white is always qual to europeans.

[sean]

Does the term “Caucasian” only refer to white people, or does or can it refer to Caucasoids overall? In your opinion should it or shouldn’t it be? This has never been entirely clear to me, so I thought I’d ask.

All white people are Caucasian, not all Caucasians are white.

MENA are Caucasian but not white and South Asians (like Indians) and East Africans (like Somalis) are their own thing.

Are there such terms as western Caucasoids or western caucasians referring to Europeans and eastern Caucasoids or eastern caucasians referring to Middle Easterners and South Asians?

Nope.

I know that “Caucasian” originally referred just to people of the Caucasus before being applied to “white people” and the major race of Caucasoids. It seems that whenever people want to refer to Caucasoids, they’ll always use that term and never use the term Caucasian for that. I don’t even think that the term Caucasian is commonly used for people of the Caucasus anymore, I think people specifically refer to the countries there. It would be a bit odd or counterintuitive if the term Caucasian only referred to white people because the term Caucasoid shares the same root as Caucasian and basically means “resembling a Caucasian”, like how the term negroid, mongoloid and australoid means resembling a negro, mongol or Australian.

Caucasian is someone from the Caucasus area, while Caucasoid implies a non-Mongoloid and non-Negroid person. Colour is irrelevant here - it's about the facial features.

Using the term "Caucasian" to refer to white people was coined by a German named Christoph Meiners. He believed that different races had different origins, and that they were defined by their beauty. He though that all the non-white races were ugly, and only the "white race" was beautiful. He thought that people from the Caucasus were the most beautiful of all, so they must have been the original "white people", and the term spread from there.

Are all “white people” of European descent? Are any white people of non-European descent, and if so, are they truly white in a racial or ethnic way, or is it just some individuals having lighter skin and hair that makes them stand out more from the population and their family members?

Just Northern Europeans mainly. In America, the term white mostly came about because on the frontier raids from Native Americans were extremely prevalent. So an Anglo would not consider himself different from his Dutch neighbour. It was a means of self defense and survival rather than colour.

the term Caucasian is rather illogical isn’t it. I’ve seen the terms “Europid” and “Europoid” before, but they don’t seem to be commonly used. I feel that they would be more accurate, but would they also be inclusive of Caucasoids that aren’t European?

Mongrels like you always fail to realise that white skin ≠ white. There are obvious extreme signifiers such as difference in skin colour between people, facial features, etc.

I'm not talking about whether or not you can determine that someone is from Europe based on their exact skin tone, I'm talking about broad categories. These characteristics are passed on genetically, so there is a biological component. A mix of features like that are then combined to create a prototype for that category.

Then we come to the social construction, which deals mainly with how you sort which people into which category. Where do you draw the lines? How many lines do you draw? How much weight to you put on different characteristics? How do geographical and political factors play a part on the characterization?

Where do mongrel children and the mongrel children of mongrel children fit in? How close to the prototype does someone have to be in order to count towards that category? Where do you put individual outliers, and where do you put entire outlier groups that simply weren't considered relevant enough to get their own prototype?

The exact verdict that tells you whether or not the mixed child of a British man and a brown Colombian woman with black ancestry is considered "white" is socially constructed. But the categories are largely inspired by biological differences.

Mongrels and other non-whites like you are the reason we have those categories in the first place.

[TheMaestro]

It's really stupid term, but I think it's mostly used in American for "white looking/white passing" people and not rather the umbrella term of Caucasoid race.

[Homo Insapiens]

It's really stupid term, but I think it's mostly used in American for "white looking/white passing" people and not rather the umbrella term of Caucasoid race.

What term is?

Not just in America.

The rest of the world follows and is influenced by America.

[Homo Insapiens]

The Wikipedia on white people mentions that East Asians were described as being white before the term became reserved for people of European descent, and by extension people who look like them.

Some dictionary definitions for Caucasian say that it’s synonymous with white people or people of European origin, as well as for things relating to the Caucasus.