Europeans 50/50 Part 2

[Grace O'Malley]

New PM of Australia Anthony Albanese

Irish-Australian mother, Italian father.






Danica d’Hondt Irish mother, Belgian father

[TheMaestro]

New PM of Australia Anthony Albanese

Irish-Australian mother, Italian father.

Albanian. His father is Arberesh, those are Albanians who moved to Italy mostly to Apulia region.

There are 4 Albanians prime ministers in the world rn.

[Grace O'Malley]

Albanian. His father is Arberesh, those are Albanians who moved to Italy mostly to Apulia region.

There are 4 Albanians prime ministers in the world rn.

Tell that to Anthony Albanese and the Australian media.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...12-p5aksu.html

He wasn't raised with his father and his father never lived in Australia. It was a shipboard romance and his parents were never married. Do the Arberesh call themselves Italian? Thanks for pointing it out as it wouldn't be something a lot of Australians are aware of.

This is his father that he went to visit when he was older. He did not meet his father until he was well into his adulthood.



This Greek paper mentions more about the Italian region his father was from.

The Arbëreshë are the descendants of Albanian refugees who fled the Balkans in the Middle Ages following the Ottoman invasion of Europe.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/04/1...hony-albanese/

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Albanian. His father is Arberesh, those are Albanians who moved to Italy mostly to Apulia region.

Father is from Barletta, Apulia where there are no Arbereshe communities (Albanese himself has never confirmed whether he has any ethnic Albanian ancestry). The surname Albanese might indicate distant Albanian origins but it is too widespread to classify anyone bearing it as Albanian.



Most Arbereshe are not from Apulia

[TheMaestro]

Father is from Barletta, Apulia where there are no Arbereshe communities (Albanese himself has never confirmed whether he has any ethnic Albanian ancestry). The surname Albanese might indicate distant Albanian origins but it is too widespread to classify anyone bearing it as Albanian.



Most Arbereshe are not from Apulia

Apulia is literally one of main cities where Arberesh comes from.
Yeah ofcourse a random Italian will name himself Albanese XD
Use a bit of logic here.

You use wikipedia source, why you can't even read it yourself.

Le migrazioni albanesi, sin dagli inizi della lunga diaspora, portarono alla formazione di comunità medio-piccole arbëreshe ben inserite in numerose città già esistenti del centro-nord Italia (in modo particolare, Venezia) e nella Corona d'Aragona (Napoli, Bari, Altamura, Barletta, Andria, Trani, Foggia, Bovino, San Severo, Lecce, Brindisi, Potenza, Matera, Melfi, Caltagirone e Piazza Armerina), nella buona parte dei casi realtà - sempre per ragioni diverse - assimilate dalla cultura circostante[52].

[TheMaestro]

Tell that to Anthony Albanese and the Australian media.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...12-p5aksu.html

He wasn't raised with his father and his father never lived in Australia. It was a shipboard romance and his parents were never married. Do the Arberesh call themselves Italian? Thanks for pointing it out as it wouldn't be something a lot of Australians are aware of.

This is his father that he went to visit when he was older. He did not meet his father until he was well into his adulthood.



This Greek paper mentions more about the Italian region his father was from.



https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/04/1...hony-albanese/

Ye, everything checks out, his father is Albanian. Or someone would say now Naturalised Italian, but his origins are Albanian.
His dad is also in that case a wanker, for not living with his son, but I won't judge since I don't know what happened. Most of Albanians take care of their kids no matter what.

[Grace O'Malley]

Ye, everything checks out, his father is Albanian. Or someone would say now Naturalised Italian, but his origins are Albanian.
His dad is also in that case a wanker, for not living with his son, but I won't judge since I don't know what happened. Most of Albanians take care of their kids no matter what.

He was told his father had died. His parents were not married and his father was a ship steward and did not have the right to live in Australia. I'm not even sure his father knew he had a son. Anyway Anthony Albanese has nothing but praise for his mother.

'She made the courageous decision in 1963 to keep a child she had out of wedlock,' he said.

'She chose, in order to – to deal with the pressures that were on a young Catholic woman at that time, in those circumstances, to take my father's name, and I was raised being told that he had died.

'That's a tough decision. It says something about the pressure that was placed on women.

'And pressures that are still placed on women, when faced with difficult circumstances.

'So, the fact that – that young kid is now running for prime minister, says a lot about her. And her courage.

'But also says a lot about this country. About this country.'

Picture below of his parents circled on the cruise ship where they had a romance.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-mother.html

[Ruggery]

Grace, do you know any famous Irish-Argentine?

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Apulia is literally one of main cities where Arberesh comes from.

First of all Apulia is a region, not a city.

Yeah ofcourse a random Italian will name himself Albanese XD
Use a bit of logic here.

I use logic, you should use it too. It is a very common surname here, it is not "random" at all. Literally it is the 12th most common surname in the province of Reggio Calabria and is also common in Campania. Again, surname is like a haplogroup: it may indicate distant Albanian origins but it does not in any way make anyone bearing that surname Albanian.

If you look at where the surname "Albanese" is prevalent and look at the Albanian-speaking community, there is no clear-cut correlation.

You use wikipedia source, why you can't even read it yourself.

Le migrazioni albanesi, sin dagli inizi della lunga diaspora, portarono alla formazione di comunità medio-piccole arbëreshe ben inserite in numerose città già esistenti del centro-nord Italia (in modo particolare, Venezia) e nella Corona d'Aragona (Napoli, Bari, Altamura, Barletta, Andria, Trani, Foggia, Bovino, San Severo, Lecce, Brindisi, Potenza, Matera, Melfi, Caltagirone e Piazza Armerina), nella buona parte dei casi realtà - sempre per ragioni diverse - assimilate dalla cultura circostante[52].

Venice and Naples are also mentioned, but little is left of these communities and in any case it proves nothing about the origins of Anthony Albanese's father. I can read just fine, and nowhere in the history of Barletta is a large Arbereshe component mentioned. Take a look at the map above again, Albanian language has little diffusion in Apulia. Sicily and Calabria are much more Albanian than Apulia is.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barletta#Storia
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storia_di_Barletta

Ye, everything checks out, his father is Albanian. Or someone would say now Naturalised Italian, but his origins are Albanian.

This is funny, someone with the last name Albanese is no more Albanian than someone with the last name Doronzo. If he is Albanian, then hundreds of thousands of southern Italians are also Albanian.

[TheMaestro]

First of all Apulia is a region, not a city.



I use logic, you should use it too. It is a very common surname here, it is not "random" at all. Literally it is the 12th most common surname in the province of Reggio Calabria and is also common in Campania. Again, surname is like a haplogroup: it may indicate distant Albanian origins but it does not in any way make anyone bearing that surname Albanian.
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Yes I meant region, but wrote city. You contradicted yourself in a previous statement already which just proved that you know nothing you're talking about.
His father looks very wogic, you can have him who cares.