Are Irish or North Germans lighter?

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-26-2021, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Finnish Swede

Of course I do not deny that (numbers of skin cancer cases by ethnics/nations). BUT I question will that automatically and 100% sure correct with skin types of those people! As I said, the way once lives will influence on the numbers of cancers as well. Not only the skin type. If we would talk about numbers of skin cancers, then that would be just fine (no complains).

Yes the way one lives will have an influence but certain skin types are more at risk. There has been a lot of studies done on this especially in places like Australia where there are a lot of people with fair skin that live in a harsh Australian climate. One of the indicators is having a family member who developed skin cancer. My mother who has Skin Type 1 developed skin cancer after 2 years in Australia and she was very careful in avoiding the sun. Unfortunately just doing something like hanging out the washing gave her enough exposure to the sun to develop melanoma.

In this study in Alabama they concluded.

Conclusion
White adults with cutaneous melanoma in central Alabama have a predominance of Irish, Scots, and "British Isles" ancestry and HLA-DRB1*04 that likely contributes to their high incidence of cutaneous melanoma.

https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/...1471-2407-4-47

You can see why this type of skin is not going to be ideal or tan very well. Pale and freckled skin is an obvious indicator that you need to be careful of the sun.

**TheMaestro** · 09-26-2021, 02:00 PM

Lighter in what sense. In terms of pigmentation Germanics are not lighter than Celts, but their hair is much lighter.

**Finnish Swede** · 09-26-2021, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I imagine you deeply orange like that Swedish bride you posted

You got them right?

Swede on left, Irish on the right. Either of them have really light hair.

**Davystayn** · 09-26-2021, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

Germans appear to be blonder to me. I don't understand these big differences in skin tone people are talking about. I think genetically NW europeans have the same skin tone.

More or less but type 1 tone is associated with red hair and Ireland has the highest ratio of gingers in the world. Type 1 is low anywhere in continental Europe. Higher number of fair haired people in N Germany of course

**Finnish Swede** · 09-26-2021, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

Yes the way one lives will have an influence but certain skin types are more at risk. There has been a lot of studies done on this especially in places like Australia where there are a lot of people with fair skin that live in a harsh Australian climate. One of the indicators is having a family member who developed skin cancer. My mother who has Skin Type 1 developed skin cancer after 2 years in Australia and she was very careful in avoiding the sun. Unfortunately just doing something like hanging out the washing gave her enough exposure to the sun to develop melanoma.

In this study in Alabama they concluded.

https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/...1471-2407-4-47

You can see why this type of skin is not going to be ideal or tan very well. Pale and freckled skin is an obvious indicator that you need to be careful of the sun.

Do you think she will tan nicely?

... she can be already called light blonde. She ain't albino.

I'm ''sure'' 37% of French people are paler than her ... or lets be fare just 1/5?

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-26-2021, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Finnish Swede

Do you think she will tan nicely?

... she can be already called light blonde. She ain't albino.

I'm ''sure'' 37% of French people are paler than her ... or lets be fare just 1/5?

She would obviously not tan well. She has very fair skin, along with the freckling. Obvious indicators that tanning is not wise. People like that don't tan but will just get more freckling and damage their skin. People will learn pretty quickly that they are unable to tan. Red skin and blistering along with sunstroke is the most likely outcome. Been there done that.

**Finnish Swede** · 09-26-2021, 02:42 PM

Obviously not. Now will she show up in skin cancer statistics? Depends how she will live in Scandinavia. Some countries are more risky than others.

Me too. I have grown up farm. I have worked on fields at summer times (to help my parents) and I needed to cover myself like lunatic (no matter how hot it was). Mostly of days I ended to go on fields in the evenings as others almost ended their work.

I wonder how familiar Septentrion is about same matter?

**~~Harkonnen~~** · 09-26-2021, 02:50 PM

BUT she looks orange here

**Finnish Swede** · 09-26-2021, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Harkonnen

BUT she looks orange here

As much as all will. I'm sure you will tan more than that.

Still I'm not sure about lightening/flashes of that film part. Seems like they have wanted to create summer evening conditions on that.

**~~Harkonnen~~** · 09-26-2021, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Finnish Swede

As much as all will. I'm sure you will tan more than that.

Still I'm not sure about lightening/flashes of that film part. Seems like they have wanted to create summer evening conditions on that.

Yes duh obviously there is some sort of orange-tilted filter in use there. But who knows. Nowadays also those tanning oils are in use which could blur reality.
Another interesting thang. Her nose looks much smaller there than nowadays. As is said nose can keep growing well into older age even after reaching adulthood.

With tear in my eye I must admit there is possibility I could reach stronker level of brown.