12th century Hungarian king Bela III autisomal, yDna and mtDna

[vbnetkhio]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-98796-x

According to the pca, he's autosomally within the modern Hungarian range, and closest to modern southern Croats.

[Dušan]

Béla was the second son of Géza II of Hungary and Géza's wife, Euphrosyne of Kiev.

Parents:

Géza was born the eldest son of Béla the Blind, a cousin of King Stephen II of Hungary, and Helena of Serbia in 1130.

Euphrosyne was the first daughter of Grand Prince Mstislav I of Kiev and his second wife, Ljubava Saviditsch.

Of his 4 grandparents, 1 was Hungarian, 1 Serbian and 2 Russian/Ukrainian

[Dušan]

I checked origin of his great-grandparents.

Out of 8 - 1 from Hungary, 1 from Serbia, 1 from Byzantine empire, 1 from England and 4 from Kievan Rus.

So I am not sure if autosomal genetics of royal families matches with autosomal genetics of people they had ruled.
In this case it was coincidence.

[Varda]

Arpad's line https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-ARP5/

[Blondie]

These royal families have very mixed ancestry, hungarians are also diverse so im not surprised.

[Blondie]

But Árpáds are no more, the Habsburgs are the legitimate heirs of the throne, they live in Hungary (not far away from me btw), fun fact but they consider themselves hungarians, the crown prince György Habsburg is active in the hungarian politics and public life, he is also the hungarian ambassador in France.

[Jana]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I'm somewhat surprised he plots with Croats and Hungarians, especially if he comes closest to southern Croats, but yeah he had very mixed ancestry.
His Byzantine part was probably very much southern. He probably does have minor exotic stuff even if it doesn't show on PCA.

[Varda]

His paternal grandmother Helena of Serbia was daughter of Uroš I of Serbia and Ana Diogenissa from Constantinople. Mother of Uroš I is unknown, but some Serbian historians think she was from Hungary. Uroš's father was Marko brother of Vukan grand prince of Serbia. Mother of Ana Diogenissa was Theodora Komnene.
Helena of Serbia was 1/2 or 1/4 Serbian.

[Varda]

About dna of Bela III from Poreklo https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...3185#msg163185

It is interesting that fraternal branch of Arpads is fully Bashkir. It's one of two R1a branches among Bashkirs.

These results confirmed some earlier assumptions about formation of proto-Magyars in the area of southern Ural, in Bashkiria. I think it has been written about that earlier, on the thread about Hungarians. Proto-Magyars were federation of different tribes, in which the Finno-Ugric element of N haplogroup prevailed linguistically. Regardless a leading clan obviously had further Turkic origin.
It seems that this initial formation happened in the Bashkiria.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Can someone upload Béla III to GEDmatch? His Y-DNA clade is definitely Steppic.



Global25 samples with similar Y-DNA

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KAZ_Nomad_IA:DA129___BC_383_,0.093335,-0.014217,0.026021,0.05814,-0.049548,0.013387,0.00423,-0.007154,-0.022293,-0.031345,0.001786,-0.006594,0.003865,-0.026836,0.013979,0.008618,-0.017993,-0.004307,-0.003017,-0.001376,-0.011729,-0.005564,-0.001972,0.003374,0.012813