Great Atheist Bomb Drops!

**catgeorge** · 10-01-2021, 01:17 PM

A true scientist will look at all corners of science including history, archaeology etc. Not only biology, chemistry and what not.

Science proves Jesus existed and his teaching from several different apostles existed.

**Aldaris** · 10-01-2021, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

In theory it is supposed to work in that way, but in reality most modern academics are a bunch of PC hypocrites and cowards. 99% of them wouldn't do something that would endanger their career. They wouldn't upset the applecart just for the sake of "truth". And we're seeing this cowardly attitudes more and more, it is after all how modern universities groom the students to be!

Nice that you mention it, thanks man.

You are describing social 'scientists' who avoid adressing topics that SJWs consider as controversial, because they would be targeted by journalists who would misrepresent what they say for a purpose of shock value. That's a one category of them. The other one is of those who already have their agenda and abuse their academic authority to push it, despite having anything, really.

Women studies and other crap like that falls into both categories.

In biology, which is not a social science, things are a bit different. But nonetheless there exists a similar thing aswell, just not in the way you seem to think so, in fact it's the opposite. Evolutionary biologists are well aware that their field doesn't make some particular groups happy, which makes them feel 'bounded' like the SJW ones.

The dishonest biologists are exactly the ones who are not able to openly state that evolution is a fact, in order to be respectful to your folk, not the other way around.

In a way, creationists are the SJWs of biology.

**Loki** · 10-01-2021, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Aldaris

In biology, which is not a social science, things are a bit different. But nonetheless there exists a similar thing aswell, just not in the way you seem to think so, in fact it's the opposite. Evolutionary biologists are well aware that their field doesn't make some particular groups happy, which makes them feel 'bounded' like the SJW ones.

The dishonest biologists are exactly the ones who are not able to openly state that evolution is a fact, in order to be respectful to your folk, not the other way around.

In a way, creationists are the SJWs of biology.

Hmm.. that's not the prevailing state of matters in the West, as far as I can see. Perhaps where you live things are different. Creationists are shunned or mocked everywhere in academic circles in the US and Western Europe -- and that includes biology.

**catgeorge** · 10-01-2021, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ford

There is no scientific evidedence of Jesus existing, although quite a lot of historical evidence. Not that it would have been an argument against evolution, so I don't really see your point.

History and Literature is a science so there is scientific evidence of Jesus Christ existing and apostles spreading the word at the same time in different parts of the world.

**catgeorge** · 10-01-2021, 02:22 PM

Trying to bring science into conflict with Christianity you will fail every single time.

**~~RenaRyuguu~~** · 10-02-2021, 12:48 AM

It's not healthy to be a complete atheist. Better to believe in something yeah

**Batavia** · 10-02-2021, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Loki

Evolution doesn't exist. At least, not Darwinian evolution of one kind of species into another kind. Zero evidence for it. It's all by blind faith that people believe in evolution.

There is no moral truth/absolute for the atheist, if he is honest with himself. There cannot be.

And how did the human races in your opinion, evolve then?
Evolution is a fact and its well proven; even though we don´t know everything yet (some things we might never find out).

**catgeorge** · 10-02-2021, 08:44 AM

We did not descend from snakes and lizards - this is the work of Satan embedded into your soul and you can not shake it out and the serpent is a representation of evil which good has slain.

Human Beings did not spring from evil. We are loving, communal, intelligent, caring beings. There are obviously out liars but they have failed to embrace the love of God.

**Universe** · 10-02-2021, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Batavia

And how did the human races in your opinion, evolve then?
Evolution is a fact and its well proven; even though we don´t know everything yet (some things we might never find out).

I don't understand how 3 sons of Noah (Japhet, Ham and Shem) could explain diversity of Humanity.
It could, if humanity had only 3 distinct races. Humanity is much more diverse and nuanced than that. Also, how can a father and mother create 3 sons of 3 different races?
Japhet is supposed to be progenitor of Indo-Europeans, Ham is supposed to be progenitor of MENA people and Shem is supposedly the forefather of Black people. What about native americans, aboriginal australians etc? At the time middleasterners/europeans had no idea Aboriginal Australians and Native Americans existed, so they didn't need a story to explain their existence.

**Universe** · 10-02-2021, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by catgeorge

We did not descend from snakes and lizards - this is the work of Satan embedded into your soul and you can not shake it out and the serpent is a representation of evil which good has slain.
Human Beings did not spring from evil. We are loving, communal, intelligent, caring beings. There are obviously out liars but they have failed to embrace the love of God.

There are illogical things in the Bible if we take it literally. According to the bible God separated lightness(day) from darkness(night) on the first day. On 4th day god created the sun and the moon. Before sun was created how did god separate day from night? On 3th day plants were created, but there was no sun yet. How could plants survive without sunlight?
Book of genesis also describes moon as a source of light, even though it doesn't emit any light, it just reflects sun's light.
In another verse it is written that

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon all the face of the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.

Even though some seeds are poisonous. Modern science have shown that even seemingly innocent seeds like wheat are poisonous for people with gluten intolerance. Why did god make some people die of the food he created for their feeding?
Health experts who analyze human diet through an evolutionary lens argue wheat causes problems for many people because humans as a species didn't consume it in large quantities for 99% of our history so we aren't adapted to it. (According to "mainstream science" our genus is 2-3 million years old, but we weren't wheat eaters prior to that either, agriculture/wheat consumption on the other hand is not more than 10k years old)

If earth is only 6k years old - as the bible says - why did god create mastodons, mammoths, glyptodons, eurasian and north american lions, smilodons, Paraceratherium, Eruasian wooly rinoceros and tons of different dinosaur species? Only to have them go extinct a couple of years later after they were created? If these many species didn't go extinct in a couple of years after their creation, then I should be able to find them in written records. Writing already existed in 3,000 BC and earth was created in 4,000 BC according to bible)