Great Atheist Bomb Drops!

**Insuperable** · 10-03-2021, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

No. Agnostics are the only people mature and conscious enough to recognise that the eternal is unknowable, beyond anyone's possible comprehension. Atheists and the Religious are basically two sides of the same coin: believers, people who are arrogant enough to claim with certainty what they don't know, either because they can't handle the spiritual void or they can't handle the idea of not having the answers, usually smug know-it-all's with a superiority complex in the case of atheists. For religious people who claim to have been 'touched by god' in some way then fair enough, that is their experience and it's not for me to doubt (or believe), but otherwise....

I am Christian or believer if you like. I don't claim anything with certainty hence the name believer or the word faith. Also, in my case and I reckon in case of many people it has nothing to do with not being able to handle a spiritual void or the idea of not having the answer. That is just your opinion.

Those that claim to know with certainty are either atheists in the true sense of the word and religious fanatics or whatever is the word used to describe them. Most other people should be either agnostic theists or agnostic atheists.

**Loki** · 10-03-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Hektor12

Whats your explanation for our tailbone?

Aha! Interesting that you mention it ... it's not a tailbone at all!

I saw a program yesterday that talked about this bone feature, it's an important feature of the spine where muscles etc are anchored on, it has a definite purpose in the body.

Every part of the body has a purpose. For example, people for long thought the appendix didn't have any purpose, but it turns out it's actually plays an important role in the human immune system.

**~~zebruh~~** · 10-03-2021, 07:50 PM

**Loki** · 10-03-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

No. Agnostics are the only people mature and conscious enough to recognise that the eternal is unknowable, beyond anyone's possible comprehension. Atheists and the Religious are basically two sides of the same coin: believers, people who are arrogant enough to claim with certainty what they don't know, either because they can't handle the spiritual void or they can't handle the idea of not having the answers, usually smug know-it-all's with a superiority complex in the case of atheists. For religious people who claim to have been 'touched by god' in some way then fair enough, that is their experience and it's not for me to doubt (or believe), but otherwise....

As a Christian, and a believer in God, there are certain things that I "know", and quite obviously there are many things I DON'T know yet. But I know that one day, everything will be releaved when we are with God and will see Jesus face to face and we will be able to know the answers to all the difficult questions.

To know God in this world, and having been born again of the Spirit, and having a relationship with God, doesn't mean you automatically know everything. But there are certain things which we (well, I can only speak for myself) know for sure, and that is for example that God does exist, that he is real, and that there is a purpose for everything in life. Knowing this is really great, and knowing that there is much to look forward to in the future. Also the fact that I do not fear death at all, because I know it's only a transition, and that real "death" as some imagine it, doesn't exist.

**~~zebruh~~** · 10-03-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Aha! Interesting that you mention it ... it's not a tailbone at all!

I saw a program yesterday that talked about this bone feature, it's an important feature of the spine where muscles etc are anchored on, it has a definite purpose in the body.

Every part of the body has a purpose. For example, people for long thought the appendix didn't have any purpose, but it turns out it's actually plays an important role in the human immune system.

How come snakes don't have legs?
Why do crabs have esko skeletons unlike fish and sharks?

**Loki** · 10-03-2021, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by zebruh

How come snakes don't have legs?
Why do crabs have esko skeletons unlike fish and sharks?

I don't know, I'll ask Jesus when I see him

**Creoda** · 10-03-2021, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Insuperable

I am Christian or believer if you like. I don't claim anything with certainty hence the name believer or the word faith. Also, in my case and I reckon in case of many people it has nothing to do with not being able to handle a spiritual void or the idea of not having the answer. That is just your opinion.

Those that claim to know with certainty are either atheists in the true sense of the word and religious fanatics or whatever is the word used to describe them. Most other people should be either agnostic theists or agnostic atheists.

Sorry, I'd had a few when I took JB007's bait there and was OTT. I don't wish to judge the motivations of Christians, or even atheists, both of whom I can sympathise with and have their reasons beyond my flippant characterisation.