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    Classify the lead singer of the folk band and appreciate Erzya songs:




















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    Good vibes. She could have a role in a Kalevala filming. A young mistress of Pohjola (An evil land in Kalevala poems).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandis View Post
    and appreciate Erzya songs:
    All this Erzya, Komi, Udmurt folk tradition basis was created during the soviet time and have very distant attitude to real ethnical culture. More educated bringers of real culture for that ethnic group that was Russian influenced was repressed (killed or deported). Sad for you but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Good vibes. She could have a role in a Kalevala filming. A young mistress of Pohjola (An evil land in Kalevala poems).
    Any idea who ancient Finns have tried to describe as Pohjola people?

    Just as latter one were evil & greedy. And their leader (Louhi the mistress of Pohjola) had dark hair and brown eyes, right?

    Kalevala is poem between Kalevala people (Finns) and Pohjola people. And about their fights for Sampo (a magical artifact) which gave the owner endless richness.

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    Baltid+extra CM(so I guess West Baltid, even though they don't look more western?)

    Pan east Euro look, seen plenty of Poles like her.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Baltid + AistoNordid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Any idea who ancient Finns have tried to describe as Pohjola people?

    Just as latter one were evil & greedy. And their leader (Louhi the mistress of Pohjola) had dark hair and brown eyes, right?

    Kalevala is poem between Kalevala people (Finns) and Pohjola people. And about their fights for Sampo (a magical artifact) which gave the owner endless richness.
    This is a question discussed about as long as the Kalevala has been. We have had several schools of thought depending on tribal ideologies.
    One school admit only Karelian starting points, someones Estonian starting point etc. Estonians gathered Kalevi Poeg, a composition of very similar poem than Kalevala. It is said that Pohjola was in White Sea, in Lapland, in Tavastia, in Satakunta, in Gotland, Saaremaa in this and that. Every idiot tries to fetch own piece of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Any idea who ancient Finns have tried to describe as Pohjola people?

    Just as latter one were evil & greedy. And their leader (Louhi the mistress of Pohjola) had dark hair and brown eyes, right?

    Kalevala is poem between Kalevala people (Finns) and Pohjola people. And about their fights for Sampo (a magical artifact) which gave the owner endless richness.
    Pohjola is Sápmi. Pohjola is also called Turja and Lappi:

    "Ellös vainen, poikueni, menkö Pohjolan tuville
    ilman tieon tietämättä, ilman taion taitamatta,
    Pohjan poikien tulille, Lapin lasten tanterille!
    Siellä lappi laulanevi, tunkenevi turjalainen
    suin sytehen, päin savehen, kypenihin kyynäsvarsin,
    kourin kuumihin poroihin, palavihin paateroihin."

    ...

    Jos sanot sa'alla suulla, enp' on tuota uskokana:
    ei sinussa laulajata Pohjan poikien sekahan,
    etkä tunne kieltä Turjan, maha et lausua lapiksi."

    Turja often refers to Kola Peninsula, which is also known as Ter. But Kvens used the term Turja to refer to Norway, so I don't know if Turja can refer to Lapland in general.

    Karelians interacted with Saami in the Kola Peninsula. The first permanent Russian settlement on Kola is the town of Varzuga, but it used to be inhabited by Karelians before Norwegian robbers destroyed it in the 1400s (http://web.archive.org/web/201203041...l/ushakov1.htm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    Karelians interacted with Saami in the Kola Peninsula. The first permanent Russian settlement on Kola is the town of Varzuga, but it used to be inhabited by Karelians before Norwegian robbers destroyed it in the 1400s (http://web.archive.org/web/201203041...l/ushakov1.htm).
    Original Kvens raided those Karelian villages already 400 years earlier, after Karelians harassed them. The king of Kven was Faravid, in Finnish Kaukomieli.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravid

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