Conflict between Polish and EU constitutions leads to a new crisis

**Lemminkäinen** · 10-09-2021, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Finnish Swede

And EU gets nothing done? Now how that can benefit?

More like Germans should lead, Germanics help/support them and all the others simply keep their mouth shut and do that has been told!
That would be recipe how Europe could beat USA, Russia, Chine.

We have not yet seen the new German government. Which side they are going to support in big questions, like EU taxation, joint liability and bank union. Germans can calculate that it is important to print more money and ensure the purchasing power of southerners, rather than our purchasing power. The more ECB prints money, the more the risk of inflation grows. Inflation is not a risk for nations with low taxes and high personal assets (capital goods).

**Veslan** · 10-09-2021, 12:22 PM

Polexit won't happen. Poland is way too dependent economically on Germany, and by that I don't mean the meme "gibs", but rather trade and other economic relations. Germany is an important trade partner for Poland and vice versa. A lot of German corporations function in Poland or even moved some of their production here, and many Polish (especially transport) businesses function in Germany and Western Europe and can't do without Schengen and EU membership. Thus, neither Poland leaving voluntarily, nor "getting kicked out" are realistic possibilities. At worst, Poland will just lose a lot of its benefits of EU memberships, and it will be entirely PiS fault.

Worth mentioning that although PiS larps as a patriotic/right wing party, they are the formation which:
1) signed and ratified the Treaty of Lisbon, furthering European integration AGAINST the will of many Polish and EU citizens (who rejected the so called "Constitution for Europe").
2) strongly supported Poland's entry to the EU.
3) agreed to EU mechanism of making dotations/national recovery plan dependent on the "rule of law", as defined by the European Commission.

The 3) point being direct reason why the EU doesn't want to approve Polish national recovery plan, official reason being PiS's useless power-hungry judicial pseudo-reforms rather than any ideological reasons.

**Voskos** · 10-09-2021, 01:53 PM

Pole pride worldwide.

**Teutone** · 10-09-2021, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

Because we need diversity in EU. Poland is a big country and it is good to see Germany, France and Italy scratching heads.

We need destruction of the EU and the more members leave it, the more realistic this destruction becomes.

**Faklon** · 10-09-2021, 02:56 PM

Truth to be told, Poland and the Baltics have been vetoing Russia for their own reasons with neo-liberal excuses.

Not that they are in the wrong here but you should be careful what you wish for.