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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Trinity is monotheistic even if Jews and Muslims reject it as idolatry. Christians consider themselves monotheistic and believe that there is only one God, but that he has 3 persons. How H2O the water molecule can be liquid, gas or solid / ice and nevertheless it is always H2O. How a person is but has body, mind and soul. I think we can observe the Trinity in the Bible but also in creation over and over again. Humanity descends from 3 sons of Noah, Japhet, Shem and Ham. The ancestors of Israel are Jacob, Israel and Isaac, because the God of Abraham became the God of Jacobs, Isaac and Israel. That's 3 again.
    The number 3 is also very present in the Bible, like the fact that Jesus died at the age of 33, at 3 P.M, crucified along with 2 people making it 3 crosses, resuscitated at the 3rd day, ect etc ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    You would only need to adhere to them if you lived in a hypothetical country run in accordance with Halakha. We don't care what you do in your own country.

    But you probably do them anyway, the laws are:

    -Be a monotheist
    -Do not blaspheme
    -Do not commit murder
    -Do not torture animals
    -Do not steal
    -Do not have sex outside of a heterosexual marriage/support the nuclear family
    -Establish and adhere to courts of law

    So as you can see any good Christian and Muslim is in fact following the Noahide laws at all times, unless you think the Trinity contravenes rule 1.
    Jews believe that Muslims and Christians are wrong anyway so how do you worship a monotheistic god without just converting to Judaism (As Jews or Rabbis say that you don’t need to convert to be “saved”)? What religion should you be practicing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flub View Post
    Jews believe that Muslims and Christians are wrong anyway so how do you worship a monotheistic god without just converting to Judaism (As Jews or Rabbis say that you don’t need to convert to be “saved”)? What religion should you be practicing?
    There are plenty of religions that are different (and therefore, all but 1 must be wrong), but still monotheistic. I do not understand this element of the question.

    Judaism is not like Christianity or Islam, you do not need to be a Jew to be 'saved.' There is no punishment for not following Judaism, this is a [very bizarre] Islamo-Christian idea. Most other religions do not have it.

    Practise whatever religion brings you peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    There are plenty of religions that are different (and therefore, all but 1 must be wrong), but still monotheistic. I do not understand this element of the question.

    Judaism is not like Christianity or Islam, you do not need to be a Jew to be 'saved.' There is no punishment for not following Judaism, this is a [very bizarre] Islamo-Christian idea. Most other religions do not have it.

    Practise whatever religion brings you peace.
    The charge is that virtually there are no monotheistic religions (if you could name any) that don’t go against Judaism, like Christianity goes against it for worshipping Jesus, and Islam goes against it for following some madman who believed he was a prophet from god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flub View Post
    The charge is that virtually there are no monotheistic religions (if you could name any) that don’t go against Judaism, like Christianity goes against it for worshipping Jesus, and Islam goes against it for following some madman who believed he was a prophet from god.
    I see my error, it’s noahide laws not about judaism’ laws...
    Last edited by Flub; 12-14-2021 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flub View Post
    The charge is that virtually there are no monotheistic religions (if you could name any) that don’t go against Judaism, like Christianity goes against it for worshipping Jesus, and Islam goes against it for following some madman who believed he was a prophet from god.
    Yes but we don't care if your religions go against Judaism, so what's the point? What's the question?

    The Noahide laws do not compel you to follow Judaism, just adhere to monotheism. Many religions do so - Sikhs, Muslims, Druze, etc. They have their [false] prophets, but this is accepted under the Noahide laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes but we don't care if your religions go against Judaism, so what's the point? What's the question?

    The Noahide laws do not compel you to follow Judaism, just adhere to monotheism. Many religions do so - Sikhs, Muslims, Druze, etc. They have their [false] prophets, but this is accepted under the Noahide laws.
    I just thought judaism laws = noahide laws. So I applied it to Judaism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flub View Post
    I just thought judaism laws = noahide laws. So I applied it to Judaism.
    No, the Noahide laws are a series of laws that non-Jews have to follow if they reside in Jewish lands.

    In their own countries they can do whatever they like, we're very Westphalian in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    No, the Noahide laws are a series of laws that non-Jews have to follow if they reside in Jewish lands.

    In their own countries they can do whatever they like, we're very Westphalian in that regard.
    Then, I guess no one is gonna practice these laws anytime soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flub View Post
    Then, I guess no one is gonna practice these laws anytime soon
    There are some internet crazies who call themselves Noahides but apart from that, correct!
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