"Holocaust? What they hide from you ..."

[Magister Eckhart]

I think that these pictures come from this article:

http://www.cwporter.com/bild1.htm

What I mean is that you need better than pictures with quotes. If we're going to make this whole idea fly, we're going to need proper documentation and scholarly archive work. Right now none of those quotes are properly documented or precisely cited.

The present form:

"This is a quote."
- A. Author

The proper form:

"This is a quote."
- Anthony Author, Generic Report, Ch. I, p. 57 (City: Publisher, DATE)

I think you're not seeing the forest for the trees here. The most striking part of this story is the fact that a man was fined and sent to prison for nothing more Than uttering an opinion.

I'm looking at this in my capacity as a scholar and academic. I'm interested in the documentation and the documents, not the individual compiling them or his fate. I take for granted anyone questioning the story is going to get thrown in jail: that's the risk you take challenging the mythos. Five hundred years hence, I'd have expected a heretic to be condemned by the Inquisition and then handed over to the secular authorities for judgement, be it imprisonment or execution - what happens to him is irrelevant to the materials he wrote, which I would be interested in reading and either refuting or reviewing. You forget, I don't believe in rights or free speech - you have the rights your government grants you; you have none inherent to your person, because the concept doesn't exist without government, which man creates, which is not a priori. I'm not going to suspend my rejection of Liberal ideology just because it suits my desire to research a controversial topic.

I am interested in questioning the Holocaust mythos, because while it is an important identity myth to the Jews, it is history to me - to be treated like all other history: objectively, in order to discern the truth of it. I therefore want primary source material to analyse and critique - I'm sick of second-hand stuff, that's where all the mythology comes from. I want the raw material, not the products of other researchers.

[microrobert]

What I mean is that you need better than pictures with quotes. If we're going to make this whole idea fly, we're going to need proper documentation and scholarly archive work. Right now none of those quotes are properly documented or precisely cited.

The present form:

"This is a quote."
- A. Author

The proper form:

"This is a quote."
- Anthony Author, Generic Report, Ch. I, p. 57 (City: Publisher, DATE)

These are only pictures with some sentences.

Of course, it's impossible to write a whole book on a picture!

Those who are interested by subject, can also do their own researches on the subject treated by the picture

You want more documentation (Authors, date ...), I understand.

You can find here all you need:

http://www.vho.org/search/d/s/index.html

More questions, try the Codoh forum

http://www.codoh.com/forum/index.php

[sturmwalkure]

Maybe because it is a brazen LIE.

[Supreme American]

Interesting document. I wish he listed his sources to prompt a more professional investigation; as it stands he seems to be repeating the same denial rhetoric. I want to see documentation, actual documentation that can be found in archives, that supports all these claims. I'm willing to give this a chance, but the only people showing archival documentation are those supporting the official story. Clearly these figures and numbers have to come from somewhere - where is it?

There are archival debates that have/are going on between both sides. A good source of that is http://vho.org and http://www.codoh.com CODOH also has a forum. Revisionists like Carlo Mattogno have researched several archives, including in the USSR, and have written books on their findings.

You aren't going to find this stuff in the MSM, you gotta look for it.

You have to understand something: Documentation doesn't necessarily support exterminationist claims. Don't assume the validity of such claims on face value. That's a mistake.

[Supreme American]

So the thousands of interrogated German POWs, and Auschwitz survivors that worked at the camp were all lying...? Holocaust deniers should be placed in mental institutions.

1) I'd like to see where "thousands" of interrogated German POWs admitted to a gassing campaign against Jews, especially when the alleged program was top secret and known to only limited few. Those who were interrogated admitted to all kinds of things (some of which were found after they were hanged that they were innocent for, see a book called Innocent at Dachau) because they were TORTURED into it. Torture of prisoners was routine, as were fake mock trials and even fake priests to coax confessions from people.

2) Plenty of Auschwitz survivors did not report this kind of activity, and those who did offer contradictory accounts. Why are you taking them on face value?

[NaziMick]

A Great Thread!

[TheBorrebyViking]

The holohoax is hiding the truth so the Jew can bring in more money and fund Zionism.