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    Question myOriginsv3 contradiction?

    I decided to do FTDNA, so I uploaded my raw data, paid the price and then... it comes kinda different. Here are the results:

    Europe 94%
    - Iberian peninsula 59%
    - Italian peninsula 28%
    - Greece & Balkans 6%
    - East slavic <2%

    Americas 3%
    - Amerindian - Central & South Mexico 2%
    - Amerindian - Argentina & Chile 1%
    - Amerindian - Andes & Caribbean <1%

    Middle East & North Africa <2%
    - Southern levant <2%
    - Anatolia, Armenia & Mesopotamia <1%

    Africa <1%
    - Western Lake Victoria Basin <1%


    Now, compare those results with the ones I got from DNA.land, for example:

    41% Southwestern European
    20% Mediterranean Islander
    20% North Slavic
    16% Northwestern European
    1.1% Ambiguous West Eurasian
    1.7% Native American

    I also got, in other tests: Jewish (duh), East european, and even some similarity with balkan folks in some oracles. Now I'm honestly confused: Which one should I trust? Is FTDNA the accurate one?
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    You seem to be almost entirely Portuguese, Italian and Sephardic in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    You seem to be almost entirely Portuguese, Italian and Sephardic in that order.
    Perhaps, It's a possibility that is backed up by some tests, but there are others like Genera that gave me a high east european (10%), plus the oracles that give me some ashkenazi (it's also the only viable explanation that I have for those east european % appearing).

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    How is It that you are jewish?Do these companies have no jewish category?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mont View Post
    Perhaps, It's a possibility that is backed up by some tests, but there are others like Genera that gave me a high east european (10%), plus the oracles that give me some ashkenazi (it's also the only viable explanation that I have for those east european % appearing).
    What do you get from Eurogenes K13? It actually might be more conclusive than these commercial tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Atlantic View Post
    How is It that you are jewish?Do these companies have no jewish category?
    They do have, but I only get them in some. Now, about my jewish ancestry, it's all proven by my haplogroup + the fact that I do have jewish-related surnames in my ancestry + majority of tests giving jewish in the results.

    But in my case, I'm prolly not accepted as a "true jew" by the rabbinical jews, but I am by the karaites (as all my jewishness comes from father's side as far as I know).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    What do you get from Eurogenes K13? It actually might be more conclusive than these commercial tests.
    Yes and no, the GEDmatch calculators use very little SNPs (Eurogenes K13 for me uses only 57k SNPs), but I like the method they use to calculate.

    Here are some of the results from GEDmatch calculators, including Eurogenes K13:

    Eurogenes K13
    1 French_Basque + Kumyk + Southeast_English + Tunisian @ 5.229177
    2 French_Basque + Kumyk + South_Dutch + Tunisian @ 5.254034
    3 French_Basque + Kumyk + Mozabite_Berber + West_German @ 5.272460
    4 Algerian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tabassaran @ 5.272564

    MDLP K23b
    1 Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 3.318681
    2 Belarusian_West_ + Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ @ 3.319812
    3 Colombian_ + Don_cossack_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ @ 3.324579
    4 Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Ukrainian_East_ @ 3.330343

    puntDNAL K15
    1 Lithuanian + Basque + North_Ossetian + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.010568
    2 Lithuanian + Basque + Balkar + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.035484
    3 Belarusian + Basque + Balkar + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.064567
    4 Belarusian + Basque + Chechen + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.129555

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    1 ashkenazi_harappa + bulgarian_yunusbayev + puerto-rican_1000genomes + spaniard_behar @ 1.810687
    2 druze_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + slovenian_xing + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.846497
    3 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + slovenian_xing @ 1.881184
    4 ashkenazi_harappa + puerto-rican_1000genomes + romanian-a_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.901783

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    Accidentally sent the same message twice, so here (the second message) I'm gonna say one thing I noticed: the calculators on GEDmatch always gives some semitic in oracles, whether jewish or arab, which is another contradiction with the FTDNA results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mont View Post
    They do have, but I only get them in some. Now, about my jewish ancestry, it's all proven by my haplogroup + the fact that I do have jewish-related surnames in my ancestry + majority of tests giving jewish in the results.

    But in my case, I'm prolly not accepted as a "true jew" by the rabbinical jews, but I am by the karaites (as all my jewishness comes from father's side as far as I know).
    I understand , that is very interesting ,is your father's line colonial from São Paulo?Would you mind telling me the ancestral surname If you know( maybe on the private)?I am interested cause I am also part colonial São Paulo (1/4)working on my tree, and althought no test gave me jewish I know that I have some distant sephardic too from the 16th century colonial northeast( google for Branca Dias If you are interested , she is my ancestor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mont View Post
    Yes and no, the GEDmatch calculators use very little SNPs (Eurogenes K13 for me uses only 57k SNPs), but I like the method they use to calculate.

    Here are some of the results from GEDmatch calculators, including Eurogenes K13:

    Eurogenes K13
    1 French_Basque + Kumyk + Southeast_English + Tunisian @ 5.229177
    2 French_Basque + Kumyk + South_Dutch + Tunisian @ 5.254034
    3 French_Basque + Kumyk + Mozabite_Berber + West_German @ 5.272460
    4 Algerian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tabassaran @ 5.272564

    MDLP K23b
    1 Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 3.318681
    2 Belarusian_West_ + Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ @ 3.319812
    3 Colombian_ + Don_cossack_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ @ 3.324579
    4 Colombian_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Ukrainian_East_ @ 3.330343

    puntDNAL K15
    1 Lithuanian + Basque + North_Ossetian + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.010568
    2 Lithuanian + Basque + Balkar + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.035484
    3 Belarusian + Basque + Balkar + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.064567
    4 Belarusian + Basque + Chechen + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.129555

    HarappaWorld
    1 ashkenazi_harappa + bulgarian_yunusbayev + puerto-rican_1000genomes + spaniard_behar @ 1.810687
    2 druze_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + slovenian_xing + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.846497
    3 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + puerto-rican_1000genomes + slovenian_xing @ 1.881184
    4 ashkenazi_harappa + puerto-rican_1000genomes + romanian-a_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.901783
    Please show me the components from Euro K13 and Dodecad World9.

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